WOW! 8O AWSOME TUTORIALS!! How did you manage to write SOOO much stuff??? 8O Anyway, thank you especially for the Java and minimo ones. I'm going to try new Minimo to see if it will work on WM5 x50v. The last version I tried suddenly won't start and crash the PPC.
Now, would you PLEAZZZZZZZE start working on the bluetooth stack? :clap: :werenotworthy: :werenotworthy: :werenotworthy: :werenotworthy: :werenotworthy: :werenotworthy: :werenotworthy:
WOW! 8O AWSOME TUTORIALS!! How did you manage to write SOOO much stuff??? 8O Anyway, thank you especially for the Java and minimo ones. I'm going to try new Minimo to see if it will work on WM5 x50v. The last version I tried suddenly won't start and crash the PPC.
It will work (tested) but I don't recommend it. Opera (Mini) are just FAR better.
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Now, would you PLEAZZZZZZZE start working on the bluetooth stack? :clap: :werenotworthy: :werenotworthy: :werenotworthy: :werenotworthy: :werenotworthy: :werenotworthy: :werenotworthy:
I can't promise anything - it requires far too much time (which I don't have now - I'd like to write a lot about other subjects and the local MS MVP submit is also approaching (in 7 days )...)
One thing the alternative browser people need to add to their programs is: proxy support!
I saw your article (on another forum, you referred to it in this thread) about a way to setup the system proxy settings (which are rather convoluted, the whole "Internet" and "Work" thing), to change them via reg files.
The problem with the alternative browsers is, they don't read the system proxy settings at all! That makes it harder to change the settings.
For instance, one has a phone (such as HTC Wizard) that includes wi-fi as well as GPRS/EDGE connectivity. For the GPRS connection one has to use a proxy server to access web pages, although not for e-mail. When connected via wi-fi that proxy doesn't work, so one wants no proxy when connected via wi-fi.
Although complicated and convoluted, it is possible to set that up to work automatically for PIE, e-mail, etc., to use or not use the proxy according to the connection type.
I don't see how to do that with the alternatives, however. Netfront has the capability to set the proxy within itself (not reading the system settings). However, it would be a hassle every time one connects via wi-fi, to go through the menus and delete the proxy, and later set it again when one connects via wi-fi.
With Opera Mobile one can set the proxy in the opera.ini file. Once again, even more of a hassle to change though--to edit the .ini file every time the connection type changes.
With others, such as Minimo and Opera Mini, not only do they not read the system's proxy settings, they don't have their own way to set a proxy. Therefore, these browsers are impossible to use with a connection that requires a proxy server.
I guess the best choice for someone who needs to be able to change proxy settings, and wants more functionality than plain PIE, is to use one of the PIE plugins or ftxp. There are some great featues to some of the alternative browsers like Opera and Netfront, but they need to improve proxy switching capability.
I hope someone can get across to the alternative WM browser developers that they need to improve proxy handling.
NetFront does support the system-level proxy - that's the default configuration. Just make sure the "Auto-retrieve" checkbox is checked in.
Minimo also has proxy support. I think it's stored in a file; that is, with a simple file swap (using two config files and just swapping the two before starting the app from a script written in a scripting language) will work just great.
The same staands for Opera: it's pretty easy to write a script in for example in nScriptm or MortScript a simple script that just swaps the config file before starting the app. (See my blog for nScriptm or MortScript -related info and sample scripts if interested).
All in all, it's, with minimal additional work, possible to easily switch between proxies, even when using Minimo/Opera. (And NetFront, as has alreasy been pointed out, is able to read the syste m-level proxy.)
Do you mean that Netfront, with that setting, will recognize whether one is connected via Wi-Fi or GPRS, and use or not use the proxy accordingly? (It took me a lot of time to get PIE to do that, but now it does!)
I don't know much about scripting. Is there a way to write it like a simple DOS batch file: "RENAME operaproxy.ini opera.ini", or something like that? Are batch files supported in WM5? Command lines?
Where does one get programs like nScriptm or MortScript? Does one have to be a programmer to use them, or are they simple enough for ordinary mortals? ;-)
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NetFront does support the system-level proxy - that's the default configuration. Just make sure the "Auto-retrieve" checkbox is checked in.
Minimo also has proxy support. I think it's stored in a file; that is, with a simple file swap (using two config files and just swapping the two before starting the app from a script written in a scripting language) will work just great.
The same staands for Opera: it's pretty easy to write a script in for example in nScriptm or MortScript a simple script that just swaps the config file before starting the app. (See my blog for nScriptm or MortScript -related info and sample scripts if interested).
All in all, it's, with minimal additional work, possible to easily switch between proxies, even when using Minimo/Opera. (And NetFront, as has alreasy been pointed out, is able to read the syste m-level proxy.)
NetFront does support the system-level proxy - that's the default configuration. Just make sure the "Auto-retrieve" checkbox is checked in.
I just tried that. Yes, it supports the proxy, but then tries to go through the proxy for all connections. It doesn't recognize different "networks", like PIE does.
So, for instance, I have a proxy set for GPRS web brqwsing, but don't want the proxy for a wi-fi connection. Netfront doesn't recognize which type of connection. It tries to go through the proxy for any connection.
Whats going on with Netfront 3.3? Access seems to have gone silent since they acquired PalmSource.
Any updates? Time of delivery?
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