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Old 09-14-2005, 10:52 PM
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This is a very good article, and quite timely considering that many people are looking for the new devices that will be released in the Fall/Winter seasons. I personally have Exchange for two accounts, and POP for the other 9 (or 10) that I have. I find POP access easier to setup, though with the exchange accounts that I am in, they are easier to deal with across the distances that I have with those people.

[if you dont mind, I linked to this article at http://mobileministrymagazine.com as it fits very well with what is being established in that community in terms of having the info to make mobility a well used option; if making a posting there is an issue, please PM me and I'll make the changes]
 
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Old 09-15-2005, 12:28 AM
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Jason,

Long time viewer here. Thank you, the Pocket PC Thoughts Team, and the forum contributors for informative articles and responses like this!

I am a recent owner of the Audiovox 6600 phone (Sprint branded). I currently use POP (leave messages on server) server access on my workstation (Outlook), notebook (Thunderbird), and ppc (uuh.. default). I tested IMAP4 last week and found a few obstacles that reverted me back to a POP3 zealot. Can someone provide a solution or link to a KB article (seached Microsoft, Sprint, and a few other sites, might have to google more) that addresses this foremost issue..

Outlook and PPC Sent Items folder, IMAP
Whenever I send an email out, the sent email is moved to the local Sent Items folder in the PST instead of the Inbox.Sent subscribed folder on the IMAP server. The same applies for Drafts and Trash folders. This issue also occurs with the Audiovox 6600's default email application.

An acceptable solution that I tried to apply was to copy and paste from the local folders into the IMAP folders. Outlook errors out and prevents me from doing so. IMAP functionality in Outlook and the Pocket PC does not seem to work accordingly. I really do not want to create a rule within Outlook as a patch solution, not sure what to do in the Pocket PC. I do not mind using Thunderbird as the workstation / notebook solution to IMAP. I am at a lost for the Pocket PC however. Can anyone provide a little guidance so I can continue to troubleshoot IMAP on the Pocket PC and Outlook (Exchange installation will not occur until 2nd quarter of 2006 , ActiveSync mod will be the 2nd thing that is implemented ).

Thanks!
 
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Old 09-15-2005, 02:39 AM
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[if you dont mind, I linked to this article at http://mobileministrymagazine.com as it fits very well with what is being established in that community in terms of having the info to make mobility a well used option; if making a posting there is an issue, please PM me and I'll make the changes]
By all means, link to it all you wish! If people find this article useful, the more that know about it the better. ;-)
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Old 09-15-2005, 02:46 AM
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Long time viewer here. Thank you, the Pocket PC Thoughts Team, and the forum contributors for informative articles and responses like this!
Glad this article could get you out of lurking mode and into posting! I hope it's the first of many you'll be making. ;-)

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Whenever I send an email out, the sent email is moved to the local Sent Items folder in the PST instead of the Inbox.Sent subscribed folder on the IMAP server. The same applies for Drafts and Trash folders. This issue also occurs with the Audiovox 6600's default email application.
There's an option in Pocket Inbox under Tools > Options that says "Keep copy of sent mail in Sent folder" - I believe that keeps it on the device. That's about all I can suggest though.
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Old 09-15-2005, 03:50 AM
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Jason,
Would a hosted exchange server such as 4smartphones.com be a realible option for a small office with say 5-6 employees?

I currently use a different software package called WorkGroup Share to share our office calendar info, but it doesn't work well all the time. in addition to that I can't sync remotely with this software. With a hosted exchange server would I be able to keep my work desktop, my laptop, home desktop and my two PPCs all synced? Would this option allow me to share all of our office calendars? Would my staff be able to update my schedule while I am out of the office and have that automatically updated on my PPC while away from the office?

Can we continue to use Thunderhawk to receive our email?

Great and timely article as I have been contimplating installing the Small Business Server Exchange 2003 in our office, but the complexity has me scared. I don't want to be a network admin, I want to run/manage my company and still get my data that I need.

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Old 09-15-2005, 04:16 AM
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Good stuff Jason. I'd add to this my own personal reason for selecting a hosted Exchange service--I needed to sync all devices without the potential failures of some sync software on 3 machines--one of which was a Mac/Entourage. Hosted Exchange really made this a simple and powerful way to get it done and I have nothing but nice things to say about Exchange (as an end user) for this scenario.
Does Entourage work well for this or did you have any issues? One of the things that has been holding me back from using my Mac Mini more is the fact that my email and Outlook data is all on my Windows notebook. If I could keep the two in sync, I could actually use my Mac a lot more (which would be a good thing )

This was an excellent article - thanks, Jason. I've had this itch to explore a hosted Exchange account for quite some time but now you've inspired me to sign up.

(You've also inspired me to renew my subscription to PPCT - I had forgotten it had expired!)
 
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Old 09-15-2005, 04:30 AM
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while on the topic of email, the university i work for just changes its name and while they were at it the domain, mail server and all that. anyway, our new setup requires different usernames for incoming and outgoing servers. the default inbox/messaging app does not support this and i could not find a way to hack it. I'm using imap and must use seperate login for smtp. both require ssl. anyone know a way to hack pocket inbox or do i have to look for another app? if so, which one? I have webis mail and really do not like it. it never worked with the old server anyway. i guess i may be forced to try it with the new one. i have to be able to sent email for work...
 
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Old 09-15-2005, 06:42 AM
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Would a hosted exchange server such as 4smartphones.com be a realible option for a small office with say 5-6 employees?
Certainly, I think that's the core scenario that it makes the most sense in.

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With a hosted exchange server would I be able to keep my work desktop, my laptop, home desktop and my two PPCs all synced?
Yes - everything is kept on the central server, and any device that connects to that Exchange server will sync with it. Think of it like the way your Pocket PC and desktop PC work.

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Would this option allow me to share all of our office calendars? Would my staff be able to update my schedule while I am out of the office and have that automatically updated on my PPC while away from the office?
I believe so - that requires public folders which means you'll need the Enterprise level package:

http://www.4smartphone.net/plan_enterprise.aspx

Features include:

* 100MB of public folder (shared) space
* Shared Company Address Book
* Shared Contact Lists
* Shared Calendar(s)
* Shared files and folders
* Administrator account and control panel for user/file/rights management

I'm not sure how those all work mind you. I've been trading emails with 4smartphone and trying to get some help/input from them on how it should work and not having much luck. Generally their support is decent, but this one issue is a thorn in my side. I'm hoping to having it resolved tomorrow when I call their president on his mobile phone. ;-)

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Can we continue to use Thunderhawk to receive our email?
No. To do what I'm describing requires that you use Outlook 2003. There are ways of doing POP/IMAP with Exchange, but I don't believe 4smartphone supports that.

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...I have been contimplating installing the Small Business Server Exchange 2003 in our office, but the complexity has me scared. I don't want to be a network admin, I want to run/manage my company and still get my data that I need.
That's exactly why I went with a hosted Exchange solution. There's only so much time in the day, and when I compared paying a few bucks a month versus having to figure it all out for myself...the choice was very obvious. ;-)
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Old 09-15-2005, 11:40 AM
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Great article Jason.

I've been contemplating using a hosted exchange service myself. Mostly because I had to WM devices and hoping it would allow some visibility of calendars between my girlfriend and I. Unfortunately it doesn't seem like "personal" accounts will provide the latter. I was actually considering setting up an OpenGroupWare installation, but I'm not overly crazy about the idea and my procrastination shows it.

Is there a way to tie pop/imap accounts into your hosted accounts so that they will all come down with a sync?

thanks again.
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Old 09-15-2005, 05:03 PM
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...hoping it would allow some visibility of calendars between my girlfriend and I...Is there a way to tie pop/imap accounts into your hosted accounts so that they will all come down with a sync?
For sharing, you might want to try something like this:

http://www.softalk.ws/products/workgroupshare/

As for pulling down POP/IMAP accounts into your Exchange account, nope, not possible as far as I know.
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