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Old 09-28-2005, 10:26 PM
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Forgive my cynicism - but doesn't it ever seem... well... a bit pointless?
Sometimes, yes, I do get frustrated at the lack of impact my feedback has - but I view my role as an MVP to be the advocate for everyone here at Pocket PC Thoughts, and as such I have to keep plugging away and trying to make the platform that I love better - even if it takes many years. ;-)
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Old 09-28-2005, 10:35 PM
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>> Sometimes, yes, I do get frustrated at the lack of impact my feedback has... <<

Standing up for users' needs for multiple years can begin to get one feeling like a pariah.

I salute Jason and the others who are going back into battle for another year... MVP's are not the enemy, but that doesn't stop people in Redmond from flinching when they are face to face with us.

I simply couldn't face the summit this year... way too old I guess.

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Old 09-28-2005, 10:53 PM
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Hey I won't be flinching at MVP's. :P I'll be at at least two MVP functions tomorrow and Friday to take a beating.
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Old 09-28-2005, 11:28 PM
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>> to take a beating <<

That's my point... the advesarial assumption.

Have yet to have an encounter about wm user problems without the ms side being seriously on the defensive.

Listen to the mvp's... they are trying to get problems addressed, not complain about them... that's what the users do.

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Old 09-29-2005, 12:39 AM
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Well, Windows Media Player 10.1 doesn't have full one-handed-usage capabilities like the other apps. You can't go "Back" in the library view. The left/right directional buttons should let you navigate the Media Library.

Exchange syncing doesn't sync Draft email folders.
 
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Old 09-29-2005, 12:47 AM
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>> to take a beating <<

That's my point... the advesarial assumption.

Have yet to have an encounter about wm user problems without the ms side being seriously on the defensive.
Bev you seem to have missed my in my original comment. I am not at all expecting an adversarial encounter with MVP's. I've known many of them even before I worked at Microsoft and value their ideas and input greatly. I say "take a beating" because I am all too aware of how things are perceived on both sides of the equation. I know what it’s like to be a dedicated enthusiast who wants to see improvement in certain areas of the product. I also now know what it takes to build this software as part of the product team and I see the complexity of doing everything for every user each release.

Besides, Jason and Ed don't need an MVP summit to beat up on me, they can just give me the what for over IM (as they have in the past and I hope they continue to do in the future. )
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Old 09-29-2005, 12:53 AM
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Well, first off the, as mentioned previously, the ability to Wi-Fi active sync to PC's. Then while we are talking about Active Sync, how about giving us back the ability to filter based upon categories, especially within the contacts app.

Jason, maybe you could get an explanation of what WM5 is doing with all of our RAM? Seems after a fresh boot of WM2003SE most devices would be using 10-13 MB's of RAM. On WM5, it's more like a whopping 36 MB of RAM (including the hidden 16 MB). That's three times as much RAM.

TrueVGA support within the bundled apps - oops that's an old one, but still exists and makes no sense to me.

Back to WM5 - why does Active Sync feel the need to start itself up all the time, even when I'm not syncing? It is literally ALWAYS running on my device. There appears to be a bug that prevents registry changes from being saved if your reset using the reset button.

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Old 09-29-2005, 01:18 AM
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>> missed my Smile in my original comment <<

I hear you, but, remember, "In humor, there is truth." ;-)

...and that's why the "beat up" in your message popped out to me. In additon, during the two summits I have attended, the huge amount of "humorous" references to ms guys being targets of mvp attacks paints a pretty clear picture of a general perception at Redmond.

We know that a lot of work has been done there to turn that perception around, but, watching body language and subtle voice cues tells me that there is still a long way to go.

We always hope what we say is heard, but, from this side, when nothing get's fixed for years (case in point, activesync) we have to assume that we are not being heard, or, if being heard, that the perceived value of our content is pretty low.

We are _not_ the enemy ;-)
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Old 09-29-2005, 01:28 AM
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Then while we are talking about Active Sync, how about giving us back the ability to filter based upon categories, especially within the contacts app.
Don't just give us back what was there. Give us real two-way filtering on all PIM data. Then I can dump the wretched Intellisync.

Here's an idea. The MVPs should get together and author a Windows Mobile manifesto. The publish it for all to see. Then we can track its progress.

Or how about this, perhaps the MVPs should take a congressional approach, where changes get MVP sponsors that champion them. Then certain WM modifications get a focus voice instead of single voices coming from different directions.

Bah! I must be letting my imagination runaway again.
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Old 09-29-2005, 01:54 AM
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imho, when the mvp's are talking to ms as a group, they are pretty dammed focused and everyone is on the same page.
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