:lol: I wasn't being harsh, I just thought it was funny! We all take this stuff so seriously, we have to balance it with a good sense of humor, too! :silly:
The bottom line is, there's simply no excuse for the MPx having the memory or processor it currently has. Moto built the thing from scratch and could do whatever they want.
Phoenix, agreed the HP is the almost the same size, nice device. Regarding the extra memory I agree, adding a missery extra 32mb could hardly hurdle the battery life much more. Regarding the processor; a faster processor might have a decent battery life with the extended battery model. But the link to thread on Howards forum about this battery a user indicates that is very heavy and many users could preffer the normal light 950mAh version. Giving not much headroom for faster processor. Motorola clearly wants to possition this device as a very portable phone, not as a semi (heavy) PDA (like it or not). An other reason might be that Motorola enginering department has not the experiance or right contacts with Intel xScale technology, so they stick with the OMAP processors.
To be honest we could continue to discuss with eachother here about the MPx, but maybe we should make a last joint effort at getting our thoughs over to Motorola.
Well too late for any modification to the MPx now. The final version already seems to be determined.
Motorola is probably already producing it to get it on the selves januari 2005. Amazing how you can ignore all the testers and other peoples critisism of not increasing the 32mb ram if they only had added 16mb would make quite a difference to the avalable mem after windows is loaded an added 32mb would make it a device that you could take seriously. Now we just all have to wait for the first revision, adding more internal memory or wait for the successor (with a faster processor as well) of this nich-market trail product.
Testing a new phone for more then a full year and still f**k it up :? .
Phoenix, agreed the HP is the almost the same size, nice device. Regarding the extra memory I agree, adding a missery extra 32mb could hardly hurdle the battery life much more. Regarding the processor; a faster processor might have a decent battery life with the extended battery model. But the link to thread on Howards forum about this battery a user indicates that is very heavy and many users could preffer the normal light 950mAh version. Giving not much headroom for faster processor. Motorola clearly wants to possition this device as a very portable phone, not as a semi (heavy) PDA (like it or not). An other reason might be that Motorola enginering department has not the experiance or right contacts with Intel xScale technology, so they stick with the OMAP processors.
To be honest we could continue to discuss with eachother here about the MPx, but maybe we should make a last joint effort at getting our thoughs over to Motorola.
The battery is bigger and yes, it would be heavier, but naturally, there's no (or would be no) way around that right now if we want the MPx to last for a good while before having to recharge. Here's to hoping we see new battery technology soon.
And I hear exactly what you're saying, but if Moto doesn't want to position this as a device with the extended battery, then we have to ask, why did they make the battery in the first place? The thing is, they're going to have to place more memory and a faster processor in there one way or another if they want the device to run properly and succeed, which means the battery is going to have to be bigger like it or not in order to run everything. Beyond that, many other concerns are moot. To be honest, I don't think Moto will have any trouble at all marketing this beautiful device once they remedy its shortcomings - even with a bigger battery. What the MPx would offer would be greater than anything else out there and people would snap them up.
I think a huge company like Motorola has the experience to do whatever they want, and certainly has the contacts to obtain whatever they need. This is a massive corporation we're referring to.
This forum may be as good as any at this point for expressing our thoughts, only because Jason touched on the fact that they (or someone from Moto) were/was reading this thread. But I agree with you - it certainly couldn't hurt emailing Moto.
Well too late for any modification to the MPx now. The final version already seems to be determined.
Motorola is probably already producing it to get it on the selves januari 2005. Amazing how you can ignore all the testers and other peoples critisism of not increasing the 32mb ram if they only had added 16mb would make quite a difference to the avalable mem after windows is loaded an added 32mb would make it a device that you could take seriously. Now we just all have to wait for the first revision, adding more internal memory or wait for the successor (with a faster processor as well) of this nich-market trail product.
Testing a new phone for more then a full year and still f**k it up :? .
Yes, I read this earlier as well. Looks like we very well may be waiting for the MPx 2. :roll:
Looks like we very well may be waiting for the MPx 2. :roll:
Yep, I just don't hope Motorola takes the developement time of the current MPx for it, 2 year. May be they can come out with a revision of the current model, were the excange the 32mb ram chip for a 64mb one. It would only fix one of the MPx shirtcommings but would have the largest effect with the least minimum design changes (changing the proc to a xScale would require q redesign of bios, and a motherboard redesign of the phone.
MPx with 64Mbps Memory according to CNET 12/14/04 Review
I'm not claiming to know how accurrate the information is, but CNET's Bonnie Cha wrote a review on the MPx on 12/14/04 that says the MPx has 64Mb Memory, not 32. Am I looking at the wrong thing here, or is there hope?
Re: MPx with 64Mbps Memory according to CNET 12/14/04 Review
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I'm not claiming to know how accurrate the information is, but CNET's Bonnie Cha wrote a review on the MPx on 12/14/04 that says the MPx has 64Mb Memory, not 32. Am I looking at the wrong thing here, or is there hope?
I don't know the particulars of her review, but it's possible that she could have been referring to the 64MB of ROM that it has. Or perhaps she knows something we don't.
Time will tell for sure. However, until it's actually released, we won't know, although there has been word that versions of the MPx with 128MB RAM have been released in very limited numbers to certain Moto employees. But who can say for certain?
I will say, though, that an increase in memory alone is going to do little. Moto will absolutely need to upgrade the processor as well (my understanding is that it's currently the equivelant of a 200MHz XScale, which is weak), greatly improve the camera (and add video capture capability as well), and improve the RF. They should also add in a VGA screen as well while they're at it - the MPx would benefit greatly with one. They'll also need quad-band GSM, EDGE capability, and a BT upgrade to 1.2.
I wouldn't buy an MPx myself, simply because it had a memory upgrade. Moto simply screwed up big time on this, and they have a LOT to fix. Back to the drawing board. I'll be waiting for an MPx II.
for the first revision, adding more internal memory or wait for the successor (with a faster processor as well) of this nich-market trail product.
MPx with 64Mbps Memory according to CNET 12/14/04 Review
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