[soho_1]

Not sure what people mean by deep pockets, but Apple has more cash than Microsoft or Google, and far more net cash. In the latest quarterly earnings updates Apple reported $34 Billion cash and long term investments and no debt. Microsoft has $30 Billion and $5.76 B in debt. Google has $21B and no debt.

Apple is also a larger company by market capitalization than Google. It's the fourth largest company in the US after Exxon, Microsoft and Wal-Mart.

[soho_1]

Not sure what people mean by deep pockets, but Apple has more cash than Microsoft or Google, and far more net cash. In the latest quarterly earnings updates Apple reported $34 Billion cash and long term investments and no debt. Microsoft has $30 Billion and $5.76 B in debt. Google has $21B and no debt.

Apple is also a larger company by market capitalization than Google. It's the fourth largest company in the US after Exxon, Microsoft and Wal-Mart.

[frankenbike]

Considering in the US we live on a two year upgrade cycle, people who bought phones this year or late last year will be in the market for their next phone after WM7 is out. Whatever happens in-between is sort of irrelevant to them.

We're finally seeing Windows phones in the US that are comparable in form factor and features to iPhones. I think my Imagio has a lot of room for improvement in responsiveness, and it required downloads to reach its full potential as a device with accelerometer and gyro, but people see that 400x800 screen and think it's gorgeous.

Will WM7 be able to establish itself as brand? I think so. Geeks have been anti-Microsoft for 20 years, and it still dominates the PC marketplace. People are comfortable with Windows. It appears that Microsoft gets that a phone is now your entertainment device and computer away from your computer. Two years ago, they still looked at Windows Mobile as primarily an enterprise market, an adjunct to Office software.

So for people coming off contracts in late 2010, there will be WM7 phones, and they'll be competitive. On top of it, Windows is a name that most people are comfortable with (but notice I don't say "that they can trust"). I just hope that Microsoft uses the time to get it closer to "right". And allows you to easily change the friggin' Zune buttons to things you use more often.

[superrrguy]

I can't run more that 2 programs at time with my new Touch Pro 2 and when they close I lose my place where I was in the app.

The lag is driving me nuts.

I can't sort programs any way in the new staggered Start Menu which hurts my brain.

I feel like a sucker using WinMo and Idon't think 7 will be any better.

[frankenbike]

Originally Posted by superrrguy

I can't run more that 2 programs at time with my new Touch Pro 2 and when they close I lose my place where I was in the app.

The lag is driving me nuts.

I can't sort programs any way in the new staggered Start Menu which hurts my brain.

I feel like a sucker using WinMo and Idon't think 7 will be any better.

Turning off the HTC Today app saves nearly 20 percent of your memory if you're using it. Also I found this really helped a lot:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=90702

In particular this: SSK TP2 Dynamic Resource Proxy.cab (search for it in the opening post). After Ditching the HTC Home customization and using this cab, I had 45 percent of my memory in use, 55 percent available for apps in my Imagio, which should be pretty similar to the TP2.

It would be nice not to have to do these sorts of hacks. I've run as many as 10 apps simultaneously so far with the above suggestion, with no problems. But the Imagio is 6.5.

[superrrguy]

Originally Posted by frankenbike

Turning off the HTC Today app saves nearly 20 percent of your memory if you're using it. Also I found this really helped a lot:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=90702

In particular this: SSK TP2 Dynamic Resource Proxy.cab (search for it in the opening post). After Ditching the HTC Home customization and using this cab, I had 45 percent of my memory in use, 55 percent available for apps in my Imagio, which should be pretty similar to the TP2.

It would be nice not to have to do these sorts of hacks. I've run as many as 10 apps simultaneously so far with the above suggestion, with no problems. But the Imagio is 6.5.

I do have 6.5. I did all that stuff except kill TouchFlo which I like but who wants to put up with stuff like that? My ringers stop working. Calls show up as unknown. The new notification dialog stops working and winmo peaks through. It's all poorly done and I can't imagine things getting better.