Oh, and as far as the iPhone missing many features such as document editing and cut and paste, I agree with you and that is what really frustrates me. The iphone was announced a year and a half ago and has been out for a year. With the new iPhone app store coming I can pretty much bet that by summer's end we will see an office suite, bibles, electronic wallets, and perhaps a program or hack to cut and paste. Microsoft has had over a year to blow this thing wide open and yet we've almost seen nothing. By the end of summer, what will Microsoft's bragging rights be?
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No, the iPhone is a cool device but there are others (as with iPods) that do the same and more and don't enjoy the real Apple Advantage: hype with a capital H.
Also, why have so few commentators noted that once again Apple intends to require its customers to only buy software from Apple. I don't question the legality of the Ap Store any more than I do iTunes, but just imagine if any other tech company tried to do that. It is a great marketing gimmick and it underscores my long held belief that Apple is really just a marketing and product design firm.
No, the iPhone is a cool device but there are others (as with iPods) that do the same and more and don't enjoy the real Apple Advantage: hype with a capital H.
Not quite. I have to admit, as an iPhone owner, it's one of the first devices I've actually used to surf the web as opposed to one of my computers. Since I'm in range of my computers nearly all the time, that really says something, and I think most of the compliments the iPhone gets as a mobile computing device is from its web browser.
I haven't yet tried Opera 9.5, and am looking forward to doing so. I have tried virtually every other mobile web browser, though, and have been extremely disappointed. Even without Flash, Mobile Safari is hands down far superior to everything else I've used.
Apart from that, I do think the iPhone has a ways to go. However, do note that "portable computer" has no single definition, and all of you being completely dismissive of Pete's opinion aren't doing yourselves a favor. If you think the iPhone falls short, fine, and I do know some people for whom I wouldn't recommend the iPhone and have suggested WM or (waiting for) Android instead. But it doesn't mean he's an idiot or something.
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Also, why have so few commentators noted that once again Apple intends to require its customers to only buy software from Apple. I don't question the legality of the Ap Store any more than I do iTunes, but just imagine if any other tech company tried to do that.
No need to imagine -- Danger did that with the Hiptop (amongst smartphones; amongst "dumb phones", exclusive software stores are commonplace, although probably not germane to this discussion). This is nowhere near a new/revolutionary model. Also, if you ask many folks in the WM community, they are highly tired of the mediocre, overcharging retailers we have. Handango et. al. overcharge and underdeliver. Do I agree with Apple's lockdown? Not really. However, I do think the App Store is an excellent idea for the average consumer and I wouldn't mind seeing Microsoft doing the same thing.
I never get why people with clearly low requirements write for enthusiast web sites.
If you are tired of Windows Mobile its time to move on, not to spend your time trying to take your readership with you.
Where is your coverage of exciting new windows mobile devices such as the Samsung Omnia? I bet you have more articles about the iPhone 3G than the Windows Mobile device with similar but better specs and features?
All this telling us why the iPhone is better just turns your readers off.
I never get why people with clearly low requirements write for enthusiast web sites.
... and I never get why people make sentences like this that make no sense. Listen to what you just said. It's an "enthusiast" website. And I can safely tell you that everyone who posts here is an enthusiast. What do you want? A professional news site that covers WM frivolously? If so, then you should read one of the PC magazines.
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I bet you have more articles about the iPhone 3G than the Windows Mobile device with similar but better specs and features?
As Darius pointed out, we have had pretty much zero to date. The only thing we posted on WWDC was the Mobile Me service.
For your information, being aware of the competition is something we've always done here. We post about Symbian, Android, iPhone, etc. It's a fairly low volume. We actively want to see WM devices improve, and that's why we post.
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All this telling us why the iPhone is better just turns your readers off.
With all due respect, given the tone of your post, if you're turned off, why are you posting in this thread then?
The only thing I see that the iphone has over WM and other mobile OS's which is mentioned over and over is "its cool" and its browser. Its acknowledged that in actual functionality it is inferior when compared to WM but it appears that doesnt make any difference because the iphone is cool and has a good browser. All these "experts" forget that with Windows Mobile your device can be anything you want it to be - with Wizbar Advanced, Pointui, SPB Mobile Shell and Pocket Plus, Contact Breeze, Pocket Informant, the list goes on. You are not restricted to being just another iphone clone user. Any developer or phone operator could have stepped up and made WM look just as "cool" as their imagination let them - but they havent. As for the browser you have choices - Netfront's concept version works well and will support flash in its release version and Opera - if they ever decide to release the browser for sale that will be another alternative and will bring the desktop browsing experience to WM smartphones.
But it seems because the iphone has a good interface it makes it superior to every other device even though these devices are able to perform the same functions and even more. It seems perfectly all right to the apple faithful to say the missing functions will be implemented by 3rd parties so it doesnt really matter that the iphone is missing these basic functions - but no other OS is given such consideration for its shortcomings.
And people seem to have forgotten not so long ago WM users were clamouring for more one-handed support and less touching of the screen. Now because apple has it everyone wants touch as well. Maybe after that people will want to use their phones telepathically ?!
So yes, lets all say the iphone is a personal computer, no other smartphone has done or can do what the iphone can do and lets all trot down to the store and buy iphones, only buy what apple wants us to buy, and stop thinking for ourselves. I for one will be looking beyond the eye candy and getting a device that is fully funtional and which allows me to do what I want without having to get big brother Jobsy's approval.
The only thing I see that the iphone has over WM and other mobile OS's which is mentioned over and over is "its cool" and its browser.
I am afraid you forgot the UI. I have been using PCs since the time of DOS strings so I can tell you that the UI is a fundamental part of a device.
Stick with your WM if you were happy with it. I will check back WM when V7 will be out.
... and I never get why people make sentences like this that make no sense.
If he's so satisfied with an iPhone that he thinks its a mobile computer he clearly does not have high requirements for his "mobile computer". I would think access to the file system would be a minimum, not to mention cut and paste. He did not even have a way to receive files from others, except for e-mail, and even then he could not store it permananetly locally.
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Listen to what you just said. It's an "enthusiast" website. And I can safely tell you that everyone who posts here is an enthusiast. What do you want? A professional news site that covers WM frivolously? If so, then you should read one of the PC magazines.
Enthusiasts of what? I would hope writers for PokcetPCThoughts would be enthusiast of Windows Mobile, not the iPhone.
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We actively want to see WM devices improve, and that's why we post.
With all due respect, given the tone of your post, if you're turned off, why are you posting in this thread then?
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Me posting here is much more likely to have an effect on your writing than you posting an article will have an effect on how MS runs windows mobile.
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