[Fritzly]

Originally Posted by whydidnt

While Microsoft has to take a huge portion of the "blame" for this. They aren't alone, their OEM/ODM partners have failed miserably in the hardware department.

We also can't count out demographics here, though. I suspect most iPhone owners are most likely 18-30 years old and the device is used for more personal purposes.

I could not agree more with the first part of your statement but why MS did not make a SmartPhone? Apple proved that carriers are just "paper tigers" and they would have fought among each others to be able to offer an original and revolutionary product.

I dsagree about the second part of your statement though; besides myself, I am fifty, I know a lot of people of my age and older that bought the iPhone because they could not handle anymore the frustration caused by the clumsiness of WM ones and are, as well as me, waiting for the iPhone Software 2 and the upcoming PocketInformant for the same platform.
Of course there are also a lot of people with a different opinion but the fact that a huge amount of users, or potential ones, are frustrated with WM is a fact that could not and should not be ignored, less than ever by managers making millions per year running MS.

[Fritzly]

Originally Posted by whydidnt

While Microsoft has to take a huge portion of the "blame" for this. They aren't alone, their OEM/ODM partners have failed miserably in the hardware department.

We also can't count out demographics here, though. I suspect most iPhone owners are most likely 18-30 years old and the device is used for more personal purposes.

I could not agree more with the first part of your statement but why MS did not make a SmartPhone? Apple proved that carriers are just "paper tigers" and they would have fought among each others to be able to offer an original and revolutionary product.

I dsagree about the second part of your statement though; besides myself, I am fifty, I know a lot of people of my age and older that bought the iPhone because they could not handle anymore the frustration caused by the clumsiness of WM ones and are, as well as me, waiting for the iPhone Software 2 and the upcoming PocketInformant for the same platform.
Of course there are also a lot of people with a different opinion but the fact that a huge amount of users, or potential ones, are frustrated with WM is a fact that could not and should not be ignored, less than ever by managers making millions per year running MS.

[ucfgrad93]

Originally Posted by volwrath

How many browsers can you run on an iphone? How many on a WM6 device? I currently have 4 loaded, and use skyfire the most (and skyfire will do things the iphone only dreams about)

Why would I want to load 4 different browsers on my iPhone, when Safari does a great job? And out of curiosity, what does skyfire do that the iPhone only dreams about?

[Stinger]

I think what's more shocking is that Nokia's browser beats WinMo in the US.

Nokia's S60 platform doesn't have a touchscreen. S60 handsets are sold in a lot of countries where data is prohibitively expensive or simply not available. Most of the devices have QVGA screens.

And somehow it beats WinMo in the US market.

What the hell is going on here?

[stevew]

Originally Posted by volwrath

How many browsers can you run on an iphone? How many on a WM6 device? I currently have 4 loaded, and use skyfire the most (and skyfire will do things the iphone only dreams about)

One excellent browser is all I need.

[phreaker18]

i really does sadden me to read such news and does make me want to cry but hey im a grown man... [i just might cry if u promise not to tell anyone]... i really do fail to understand the mentality of the people over at M$... i mean what r they thinking .... inspite of all of this AS & M$ Exchange will now be licensed to those iPeople ... damn.. why doesnt anyone care about WM is that passionate manner that we all would like to see ... i feel as if im rambling but i cant help it i really feel helpless... dejected and disillusioned !! PERIOD !!

[subzerohf]

I think we should wait and give WM 6.1 a chance before (resuming) bashing M$

[virain]

Sorry to say, but PIE is all that I use for browsing..., But then again, I don't do it that much. Maybe it's just me or maybe it's a browsing experience

[Rocco Augusto]

I do agree that Apple's mobile browser is way ahead of the curve compared to Microsoft, but there is a lot more to the quality of the browsing experience than the browser technology. One of my main annoyances with PIE isn't the fault of the software at all but instead the fact that our Smartphone screens are so tiny that even if we had a nice Safari-like browser, it wouldn't matter since there is not enough screen real-estate to make it useful.

[Jerry Raia]

Originally Posted by Rocco Augusto

I do agree that Apple's mobile browser is way ahead of the curve compared to Microsoft, but there is a lot more to the quality of the browsing experience than the browser technology. One of my main annoyances with PIE isn't the fault of the software at all but instead the fact that our Smartphone screens are so tiny that even if we had a nice Safari-like browser, it wouldn't matter since there is not enough screen real-estate to make it useful.

Good point about the screen size.

[doogald]

Originally Posted by Rocco Augusto

One of my main annoyances with PIE isn't the fault of the software at all but instead the fact that our Smartphone screens are so tiny that even if we had a nice Safari-like browser, it wouldn't matter since there is not enough screen real-estate to make it useful.

Hmmm, you should give Opera Mini 4.1 a try. It works pretty well, given the screen real estate.