Since WM5 will use FlashROM (PS) to store all programs then manufactures will need to start making devices with more memory real soon. I have 94MB worth of software on my PPC alone (exluding games which I keep on SD card). So what are people like me to do? The X50v and hx4700 are the ones I like the most but neither of them have a big enough FileStore and giving up software is not an option. So with WM5 just around the corner it seems like a step backwards instead of forwards when it comes to memory. I have always hated advertising of the amount of memory in PPCs and its not the amount you get to use. I hope that it does change.
Right now you can store many if not most of your programs on an external Flash card if you want to and if you know what you are doing (it's kind of tricky with some programs). Are they going to remove that capability with WM5?
I only keep games and documents on an SD card which stays in my PPC. Programs I need to keep on the PPC itself. I use my device alot between personal and business life and it's not convenient to keep programs on SD cards. I still use my 5555 because of the amount of memory it has. I would love to have a PPC with a VGA screen but none of them fit my memory requirements. That's very disappointing to me. With every new PPC made we make trade offs instead of adding to already good designs and that's what I don't understand or like having to do. Call me picky but that's how I see it.
I routinely surf the web with only 16MB of program RAM free with no problems, so were are these "weird program errors" going to come from if I have nearly all of the 64MB of RAM in my x50v to run applications?...
Try loading this page with 16Mb free. (BTW it works fine on my loox 720).
I routinely surf the web with only 16MB of program RAM free with no problems, so were are these "weird program errors" going to come from if I have nearly all of the 64MB of RAM in my x50v to run applications?...
Try loading this page with 16Mb free. (BTW it works fine on my loox 720).
I routinely surf the web with only 16MB of program RAM free with no problems, so were are these "weird program errors" going to come from if I have nearly all of the 64MB of RAM in my x50v to run applications?...
Try loading this page with 16Mb free. (BTW it works fine on my loox 720).
I'm replying to this post om my Axim.. So, what's supposed to happen -every thing is working just fine... :roll:
You must be joking! That page is at least 23MB big when loaded. I did not say with images off.
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I think the first time I hit the page I didn't let it finish loading -you're right, it tanked
However with WM5 it won't matter since all of the 64MB of RAM that I have will be available for applications. Even now I could load that page if I didn't use RAM for application storage.
IMHO RAM won't be a problem, but batteries will. Lithium Ion batteries are designed to be fully charged and frequently charged -they do not handle deep discharges well. If WM5 encourages people to fully discharge their batteries then we may see a higher instance of battery failure...
Apologies for posting to a slightly older news item, but I have a question. I install all my apps and and store all my documents on the "iPAQ File Store" area of my hx2750 ipaq..... does this, in a sense, mean I'm already working in the way WM5 expects everyone to work... also meaning that because my RAM is basically completely free... my battery life is slightly increased? Thanks.
Apologies for posting to a slightly older news item, but I have a question. I install all my apps and and store all my documents on the "iPAQ File Store" area of my hx2750 ipaq..... does this, in a sense, mean I'm already working in the way WM5 expects everyone to work... also meaning that because my RAM is basically completely free... my battery life is slightly increased? Thanks.
You've got a similar idea going, but you're far from achieving the full effects of persistent storage. Your current device with WM2003SE means that half your RAM is still devoted to program execution, with the other half for storage. With Windows Mobile 5.0, you'll effectively free up all of that RAM for program execution. Also, given your current configuration, if you were to run your battery flat, your device would still revert back to its factory default (with program files still in your non-volatile ROM, but it doesn't necessarily mean you can run them, since most require added system files in the \Windows\ directory, which resides in RAM, as well as added registry keys). With Windows Mobile 5.0, that's not the case. Since nothing is stored in RAM, even if your RAM gets wiped with the battery flat, your system will remain untouched since all your data resides in ROM.
In short, nothing can replicate the persistent storage feature in Windows Mobile 5.0. You'll benefit greatly from the update when HP makes it available for your device.
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Apologies for posting to a slightly older news item, but I have a question. I install all my apps and and store all my documents on the "iPAQ File Store" area of my hx2750 ipaq..... does this, in a sense, mean I'm already working in the way WM5 expects everyone to work... also meaning that because my RAM is basically completely free... my battery life is slightly increased? Thanks.
You've got a similar idea going, but you're far from achieving the full effects of persistent storage. Your current device with WM2003SE means that half your RAM is still devoted to program execution, with the other half for storage. With Windows Mobile 5.0, you'll effectively free up all of that RAM for program execution. Also, given your current configuration, if you were to run your battery flat, your device would still revert back to its factory default (with program files still in your non-volatile ROM, but it doesn't necessarily mean you can run them, since most require added system files in the \Windows\ directory, which resides in RAM, as well as added registry keys). With Windows Mobile 5.0, that's not the case. Since nothing is stored in RAM, even if your RAM gets wiped with the battery flat, your system will remain untouched since all your data resides in ROM.
In short, nothing can replicate the persistent storage feature in Windows Mobile 5.0. You'll benefit greatly from the update when HP makes it available for your device.
Thanks for the great answer Darius
However, the apps "installed' in my file store are actually just sitting there, they've survived a few hard resets and don't have their original registry entries/other files ... all work fine ... All I have is a set of shortcuts to copy into the start menu (also stored in file store) upon a hard reset to essentially restore my PPC to its setup state after a hard reset... hrm.... I guess I'm as close to the WM5 system as a I can be atm! Looking forward to the real thing!
However, the apps "installed' in my file store are actually just sitting there, they've survived a few hard resets and don't have their original registry entries/other files ... all work fine ... All I have is a set of shortcuts to copy into the start menu (also stored in file store) upon a hard reset to essentially restore my PPC to its setup state after a hard reset... hrm.... I guess I'm as close to the WM5 system as a I can be atm! Looking forward to the real thing!
Probably not the best way to have programs "installed" on a freshly-hard reset system, but if it works for you, I guess go with whatever floats your boat.
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... All I have is a set of shortcuts to copy into the start menu (also stored in file store) upon a hard reset to essentially restore my PPC to its setup state after a hard reset... hrm.... I guess I'm as close to the WM5 system as a I can be atm! Looking forward to the real thing! 
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