[wocket]

Originally Posted by Jason Dunn

Ultimately I believe HP is trying to clamp down on the wrong location - it's not enthusiast sites that are leaking information, it's HP themselves.

Yeah too right. It's a case of we'll leak it, but on our terms.

From my point of view it is that sites like this one that are doing companies like HP big favours for usually nothing in return. Hell I would'nt have bought half of may PDA stuff if it was'nt for this site or saving up my pennies for my next PDA.

Way to go Jason and Chris for keeping your integrity

Boo and Hiss to the evil masinations of HP :evil:

[wocket]

Originally Posted by Jason Dunn

Ultimately I believe HP is trying to clamp down on the wrong location - it's not enthusiast sites that are leaking information, it's HP themselves.

Yeah too right. It's a case of we'll leak it, but on our terms.

From my point of view it is that sites like this one that are doing companies like HP big favours for usually nothing in return. Hell I would'nt have bought half of may PDA stuff if it was'nt for this site or saving up my pennies for my next PDA.

Way to go Jason and Chris for keeping your integrity

Boo and Hiss to the evil masinations of HP :evil:

[Jonathan1]

:huh: WAY TO GO HP!!! :way to go: Way to alienate the people that generate sales and enthusiasm for your devices!!

I hate.... :deal:

This is about as brilliant as Palm going after those Palm enthusiast websites a few years back and will prob end up generating the same type of resentment. You DO NOT bite the hand that feeds you. HP needs to learn this. Otherwise expect Dell to catch some serious marketshare. The diff between this and Palm's clampdown is this has been up til now...in the dark. The site clampdown was rather public. I'm hoping that with Jason stepping up to the...:soapbox: Others will as well. This needs to get out and needs to stop before this becomes a trend.

Keep up the craptacular job HP.

:iamwithstupid:


PS...are these folks actively TRYING to get someone else to eat at their market share?!? :twak: Between this attitude and their new PoS devices I'm thinking my magic 8 ball is telling me: ALL SIGNS POINT TO HOLY CRAP YES. :byebye:
What the bloody heck is happening at that freaking company?!?!!? I have come to the firm conclusion there has to have been some internal shuffling of management. All this smells like a Dilbert type decision. Someone please stop the madness. Please! :bawl:

PPS- Heheh. I've having WAY to much fun with smilies today. :rainbowafro:

[DaleReeck]

Why on earth would HP want to stop info about "rumored" products? Its those sort of rumors that keep people excited about these new products.

I understand the reasons that companies try to keep those things underwraps, but there needs to be a balance between secracy and creating excitement for new products.

In an earlier thread, I said I would gladly become an "HP whore" if I got some of their stuff early But even I would do it if it meant stopping discussion of future products. Discussing new rumors are some of the biggest, best threads around in the forums.

[mmarlor]

Jason - and Chris - I have immense respect for you both on this one. I can easily understand how some webmasters would have felt they had no choice but to accept and comply with the terms, although perhaps some would have had no problem with them in any case.

Either way, I think you both deserve a big pat on the back for standing your ground. Next time they try it, agree on the proviso that you in turn can have editorial control over the hp.com website ;-)

[dean_shan]

Yeah it doesn't make sence, maybe Jonathan's right, they are trying to kill off the iPaq.

[Chris Leckness]

Ultimately HP can run their business any way they want. This enthusiast program was a perk to me, and to this site, not something that I have a right to. They changed the rules, I don't like the new rules, and I quit. HP owes me nothing more than that.

Jason, You are correct, they owe us nothing. On the other hand, they do owe their once faithful users the opportunity to read reviews from people they know and respect. People that are not going to candy coat a mediocre product.

Jason, PPCT is one of, if not the BEST source for Pocket PC news, info, and conversation online. Did HP just fall off the turnip truck? Can they not see the value of PPCT having a review of their products? Oh boy.... I could go on.[/b]

[szamot]

Let's see if I understand this right. You are not allowed to take part in any rumors or leaked information if you will, and when the product comes out you have to ask HP if you can say that you are not 110% happy with its functionality. Yeah, sounds like a dictatorship to me not to mention the worse kind of censorship. This is very reminiscent of the communist era paranoia. Corporate America = bunch of whinny wankers, grow up and get over it. Then again look who is trying to run this company.

[Darren Behan]

I'll add my two cents in support of Jason on this.

HP's recent customer/community landmarks:

1) SE upgrade policy of lack thereof
2) An underwhelming line of new iPaqs
3) An ultra restrictive/big brother approach to their 'evangelist' program

I'm not sure how many more missteps HP will make to drive away customers & sour the community but I personally don't need anymore. I'm done with HP til they get their act together.

db

[sooby77]

HP's latest foolish move is a perfect example of a company losing touch with the people. Instead of seeing the rumors to be something bad and being defensive about it, embrace them. In fact, use it to your advantage. The glass is half full/empty depending on how you look at it.

I hope it backfires, 'nuff said.

[Jacob]

I'll concur with the popular sentiment.. this is stupid.

I've seen on this site times when someone will post one thing one day implying that they are happy with their device and it seems the next day a rumour will come out about a new device and that same person will all of a sudden be salivating over the possibility of upgrading.

I've felt the call of "upgrade-lust" myself at times when I've seen such rumours posted.

I suspect that they believe that their corporate deals are too important to alienate by limiting the information they give them.