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Old 07-27-2006, 05:45 PM
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My guess would be to enable push email on the Hotmail service would just lead to a too high number of connections being maintained constantly to the Hotmail servers to be sustainable.
Every push enabled device would maintain an open http connection to the Hotmail service, waiting for a change, and I guess if you look at the number of Hotmail clients that might be potential users of push email it might be a denial-of-service just waiting to happen :-)

And once they've enabled it there's no going back. Imagine the backlash if one year down the line they cut the service...

Jason Langridge had a good explanation of how push is implemented on his blog -> http://blogs.msdn.com/jasonlan/archi...03/499714.aspx
 
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Old 07-27-2006, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: Hotmail Is Not Push Mail - Why?

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Anyone care to venture a guess at why Push Email hasn't been implemented in Hotmail?
Because GMail doesn't do it yet (i.e., they haven't had to).
 
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Old 07-27-2006, 07:50 PM
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i think its still microsofts view that WM devices are corporate use devices and since Hotmail isnt a corporate system they wont push from it. I think this is an antiquated mentality but nonetheless. Microsoft needs to embrace the corporate customer who also uses his device for personal use.
 
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Old 07-27-2006, 09:54 PM
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Default Re: Hotmail Is Not Push Mail - Why?

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Anyone care to venture a guess at why Push Email hasn't been implemented in Hotmail?
Because GMail doesn't do it yet (i.e., they haven't had to).
I agree, that's probably it. When GMail get's push, Hotmail will get it too, but not before...
 
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Old 07-28-2006, 01:04 AM
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While Hotmail is a service that MS provides, perhaps it not apart of what I call their core or priority strategy.

Hotmail doesn't encourage the adoption of any particular MS platform. Unlike Exchange. Exchange pushes Windows. Its all the more reason for businesses to have Windows in their Enterprise strategies.

Exchange doesn't directly encourage Windows Mobile, but Windows Mobile encourages Exchange.

Hotmail encourages nothing. Perhaps if they fold it into Live, then this could all change.

Just a thought.
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Old 07-28-2006, 07:47 PM
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Hotmail already had push on Windows Mobile 2003.
Remember back before Pocket MSN was included with the Operating system? Back then you could subscribe to Pocket MSN for a fee and download a "Pocket MSN for Windows Mobile" program that you could install on a Windows Mobile 2003 Pocket PC Phone and it would enable push email for your Hotmail account. This was before Hotmail accounts were built into the Messaging application by default.
Anyway, it wasn't the push email that y'all are talking about now with Exchange 2003 SP2 which maintains a connection with the server at all times. This was text-message triggered where as an SMS would wake up your device and implement a send/recieve of your Hotmail email much like T-Mobile's implementation of "Email Triggers".

So the answer is, Hotmail did have push email. It's just that no one noticed that it was gone in later versions of Pocket MSN.
 
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Old 07-28-2006, 08:43 PM
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If I was important enough (or whatever enough) to need push e-mail, I would have something other than free web based e-mail. [Yes I pay for the Hotmail enhancement, but not for the 2G, rather for the Outlook interface capability. I prefer just one e-mail client.]
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