[bnycastro]

Originally Posted by ianl

Limiting the device to tri-band GSM and duo-band UMTS also limits the device geographically ... altogether, too sad !!

I was curious with this move too! I find it a stretch to believe that it would be cheaper to make 2 models of triband [1 with an NA band / 1 with EU/Asia/ROW band] vs making 1 model that is quadband and works for most markets? or did they overstock on the triband chips while making the TouchDual and are trying to finish them all?

[bnycastro]

Originally Posted by ianl

Limiting the device to tri-band GSM and duo-band UMTS also limits the device geographically ... altogether, too sad !!

I was curious with this move too! I find it a stretch to believe that it would be cheaper to make 2 models of triband [1 with an NA band / 1 with EU/Asia/ROW band] vs making 1 model that is quadband and works for most markets? or did they overstock on the triband chips while making the TouchDual and are trying to finish them all?

[kdarling]

Originally Posted by Dyvim

Some of the eye candy is quite nice (love the rain in the weather app), but even in their YouTube demo videos (which are of course best-case tightly-controlled scenarios) when they do stuff like finger swiping, the photo (or whatever) doesn't move until after the swipe is complete (and with a short but noticeable delay to boot).

And the iPhone keyboard doesn't register letters until you lift your finger. But you get used to it.

It's just a case of the HTC having a larger gesture vocabulary than the iPhone, so the code needs to wait until you stop moving, to figure out what you want to do. For example, small swipe = change pics, large swipe = change menus, circular = zoom, L-shape = rotate, and so forth.

The iPhone depends on the user constantly breaking from their supposed touchscreen-only paradigm, and using the physical Home button to move between apps or displays. The HTC method lets you stick mostly to the touchscreen. HTC is truer to the touch-only concept than Apple.

Still, I'm like you: I'd rather have a smaller set of gestures and more instant feedback. Perhaps if enough people asked, HTC could have a mode switch.

[Dyvim]

Originally Posted by kdarling

And the iPhone keyboard doesn't register letters until you lift your finger. But you get used to it.

Actually the iPhone keyboard registers your touch instantly (that's why the little popup with the letter appears), it just doesn't type the keystroke until you release it (allowing you to slide to an adjacent letter or hold for foreign characters or even slide to switch the keyboard to numeric or symbols. So it's not the touchscreen, it's just how Apple implemented their keyboard (whether or not you like it is another story).

Originally Posted by kdarling

It's just a case of the HTC having a larger gesture vocabulary than the iPhone, so the code needs to wait until you stop moving, to figure out what you want to do.

I suspect it has more to do with HTC's touchscreen coding and having to do it all through Windows API's (OnLButtonDown, OnMouseMove, OnLButtonUp, etc.) rather than having touchscreen gesture recognition APIs built into the OS as on the iPhone. The iPhone seems to have little trouble distinguishing between various gestures instantaneously. e.g. Photos app does swipes, double taps, pinch in, and pinch out. Maps does all those plus also recognizes 2-finger double tap as different from 1 finger double tap.

[Macguy59]

If they get the gesture bugs worked out I would take a serious look at this device. I'm happy with my iPhone but this device looks slick.