[Janak Parekh]

Originally Posted by alizhan

But the reception is superb. That's mostly what I was referring to. The reception on most of the more modern phones is pretty sketchy out here in the sticks.

I know what you mean, I was just teasing. Incidentally, do you mean digital reception, or the fact the 7868W had analog? Digital reception is indeed all over the map with new phones, but I've heard some of the new phones are pretty good. My Treo falls in the "okay" category... of course, no analog.

Originally Posted by Janak Parekh

With how much we keep on these fool devices now, backups are a must. Hey, that sounds like a great opportunity for the cell companies to charge us for yet another basic service! :roll:

Actually, I think one carrier does already offer a fee-based backup service... 8O

--janak

[Janak Parekh]

Originally Posted by alizhan

But the reception is superb. That's mostly what I was referring to. The reception on most of the more modern phones is pretty sketchy out here in the sticks.

I know what you mean, I was just teasing. Incidentally, do you mean digital reception, or the fact the 7868W had analog? Digital reception is indeed all over the map with new phones, but I've heard some of the new phones are pretty good. My Treo falls in the "okay" category... of course, no analog.

Originally Posted by Janak Parekh

With how much we keep on these fool devices now, backups are a must. Hey, that sounds like a great opportunity for the cell companies to charge us for yet another basic service! :roll:

Actually, I think one carrier does already offer a fee-based backup service... 8O

--janak

[alizhan]

Originally Posted by Janak Parekh

Incidentally, do you mean digital reception, or the fact the 7868W had analog? Digital reception is indeed all over the map with new phones, but I've heard some of the new phones are pretty good.

Analog used to be vital around here, but most of the analog towers finally went digital in the past couple of years. Even now, though, I find that my 7868W gets better digital service (more bars, less clicks, etc.) than the new-fangled phones around me.

Supposedly the LG phones are some of the most receptive of the new lot. I keep hearing that they are now what Motorola used to be (i.e., first, make it work well; then, make it look cool). IME, the new Moto's sure are nifty, but they aren't very good.

Originally Posted by Janak Parekh

Actually, I think one carrier does already offer a fee-based backup service... 8O

:grumble:

[Janak Parekh]

Originally Posted by alizhan

:grumble:

Shocker: it's Verizon.

www.verizonwireless.com/backupassistant

I'm glad I don't need it... :mrgreen:

--janak

[amg]

Originally Posted by signothefish

I hate to sound like a broken record, but this is all the more reason to not go with a converged device right now. I just don't think it's the right time. Let the kinks get worked out and come back in a couple of years, when hardware is supported better, the robust features return, and high-speed data coverage is much better. That way you don't get locked into a service with a substandard piece of hardware to carry you through the 2-year term.

And yet - the devices are actually quite capable and surprisingly stable. The 8125 I have works great - sure, there are things it could do better and faster, but that will always be the case. (The way technology works these days, whenever any device comes out, specs of the next one are already circulating... If we wait for the ultimate device, we'll be waiting forever...)

The 8125 is a particularly frustrating situation - the ROM upgrades that will activate all the great features and get the device performing wonderfully ARE OUT THERE - Just not from the carrier - which means that only those people who feel comfortable installing a theoretically unsupported ROM get access to the functionality. It's not a matter of a substandard device, just a carrier that hasn't gotten around to legitimizing use of its full power.

[jamisonw]

I was with Cingular for years and got the 8125 after much anticipation. I returned it a week later and switched to Verizon for the xv6700 because the 8125 was a DOG. Like five minutes to get the damn thing to start every morning. battery life was better, but the device was nearly unusable. Now Verizon is giving me other headaches, but the devices is MUCH more usable for those of us who need a little power, though battery life sucks. (I am buying a 2nd battery).

The answer is simple, no one carrier gets it all right all the time, and things change so fast that while you might find a good situation with one, that will probably change within 12 months and the grass will be greener on the other side. I love my device and am anxiously awaiting the ROM update. That said, service is better that Cingular and data speeds blow Cingular away. I can wait.

Need to change my profile to my new phone... :lol: