I think it all comes down to perception. People think of Microsoft and they think of Bill Gates, who is publicly seen as a super nerdy guy, and then Steve Jobs with his scruffy beard and black turtle neck sweater. You have expect Steve to smack a pull a Fonzie and smack a jukebox and make magic happen.
Heck not to long ago when Steve and Bill were together on stage for an interview, Bill made a comment that he wish he had Steve's sense of style. Bill retiring was a good thing and it gives Microsoft a chance to put a fresh new face up there.
If they were smart, Microsoft would make Jay Allard the new public face of Microsoft. People love Jay Allard.
I moved from WM2003SE -> WM5 -> WM6 -> WM6.1 and after playing with OSX on iPod Touch and iPhone, I'm ready to switch over.
You did WM2003SE -> WM6.1. Try WM2003SE to iPhone OSX?
I had an iPhone to play with for several hours and the experience overall was ugly compared to a WM (Pro) device.
Sure, the look and feel was convincing, but nothing else was.
I missed the flexibility and professionalism of WM.
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Underwater Mike, I just don't care about you, really. You mean nothing to me, though I still comment on your crap.
I am uninformed? Re-read my post, I had an iPhone for several hours. No no, you are illiterate.
If you call me a fanboy, I will call you a hypocrite. As simple as that.
And yes, you are a hypocrite!
You never really used Windows Mobile, that's why the iPhone suits you and that's why WM's subset called iPhone is enough for you.
The simple toys for you and the masses, the professional tools for the rest of us.
Apple things are widely considered as toys. You don't expect much from toys.
That is undoubtedly the most uninformed fanboy statement I've heard in a long while. And as to Apple products being featured in mainstream media, those are paid placements, not programming bias.
I was a full-bore MSFT user until getting my iPhone a month ago. It ain't perfect, but it's better than any WM device I've owned in the last eight years.
That is undoubtedly the most uninformed fanboy statement I've heard in a long while. And as to Apple products being featured in mainstream media, those are paid placements, not programming bias.
Well some are, and some aren't just read engadget.com posts. I don't think those AOL guys are paid by Apple under the table, but you could clearly see their bais towards anything Apple makes, even if it is news on Apple's screw up, it sounds very forgiving, while anything about MS products posted is with as much sarcasm and hatred.
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I was a full-bore MSFT user until getting my iPhone a month ago. It ain't perfect, but it's better than any WM device I've owned in the last eight years.
So, your needs in computing do not go much beyond basic functionality, s.a. make a call, listen music, watch video, flip through few pages on internet, read email, and maybe play a game. That's O'K, iPhone is definitely a device for you! Some people need to do more than that, and that's when windows functionality comes in! I have 3G iPhone, and I agree with joker, there's nothing besides it's look that attracts me.
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For a significant proportion of customers, being an Apple user is part of their identity. "I'm a Mac guy." For whatever reason, it's a personal thing in which they are emotionally invested. Before anyone gets too hot about it, I'm not saying all Apple users do this, I'm just saying it's a significant proportion of them. For these people, it's important to be cool, to be right and not to be a 'minion' of the evil Microsoft empire.
These are the guys who will still say with a straight face that Apples are faster than PCs, Apples are better for graphics than PCs, and the rest of the assorted nonsense that hasn't been true or relevant in over a decade. These guys may well complain about flaws in Apple OS's amongst themselves, but they will quickly close ranks and deny everything when put in the context of comparing their beloved Apple to Microsoft. And, yes, they will forgive Apple almost anything because they believe they really are a part of Apple and that Apple cares about them. Good for Apple for creating that illusion so effectively; they deserve credit for building such a loyal fan base.
There are MS fanatics too, but it's a tiny proportion of the user base. The vast majority of Windows users simply made a pragmatic choice to go with Windows based on cost, software availability, gaming performance, hardware flexibility, etc. And if there is one thing that MS has not done, it is to make Windows users feel even the slightest bit of loyalty to the company. Even many of us like me who are firmly in the Windows camp (because for my needs, Windows is a much better product) cannot feel loyalty to a company that says, 'We think you've stolen your copy of Windows, prove that you haven't,' every time you want to apply a simple security update. So yeah, when you don't really like the company you buy things from, then you feel free to attack it when they don't do a good job at something, and you don't come to its defense when someone attacks it like with those absurd (basically fraudulent) Apple/PC Guy ads.
If MS responded in kind with ads claiming things that aren't true about OSX, the outrage from the Apple community would itself become news, and the false claims would quickly be discredited under the intense public scrutiny. But when Apple does that, PC users just shrug and ignore it because they don't care at all about MS. They just want to get their work done and get on with their lives. It really doesn't matter if it's fair or not because each is the result of the relationship the respective company has chosen to develop with its users. There are advantages to both models, but one of the advantages of Apple's model is that its users are more foregiving.
Perhaps the 20 years of poor performance, high cost, failure to address customer needs and questionable business practices has had a bearing on this?
Perhaps media and political (remember, all those "questionable business practices" issues started when MS didn't commit to Clinton's re-election campaign in 90's) unfavorable bias towards MS makes an elephant out of a fly. Take any successful corp. in this industry including your beloved Apple Inc. and you find as much problems if not more than MS has, but MS is more expose, primarily because it doesn't fight this back, and trying to play a nice guy. And why not, after they've been taken to the cleaners by greedy politicians and competition sore losers, who were all to happy to ride the wave . And media? those above got MS down, and media just keep kicking as long as it is down, what the hell, it doesn't kick back so it is safe!
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I don't know why people are suffering with unlocking and all the blah blah with apple iphone.
I have a Pocket PC, I used a iphone theme (http://www.iphonethemeforpocketpc.com/) and everything worked like a magic to me. Now I'm having the iphone experience in my Pocket PC.