The real issue is the Microsoft consumer. Microsoft has setup a dicatorship like business. They say how it is and the consumer excepts it. Stop buying and they will get the hint.
Stop buying? What should we buy instead? Palm OS?
(Symbian seems to be a much better choice than Palm OS though. The newly announced hi-end Nokia models really rock. I wish they weren't so damn expensive, even for us Europeans...)
I feel the pain too. As was posted recently, a new ROM upgrade from i-mate just came out for the JAM and I still haven't had time to do the upgrade and the whole application-reinstall again. What makes it the more painful, we got the JAM somewhat recently and I've just gone through the whole process of installing/configuring the apps on it.
And for our two i-mate PDA2k's, jwright's excellent ROM upgrade came out this month. But I've still yet to upgrade one of the PDA2k's, and for the other one that I've upgraded I've still yet to reinstall most of the apps, because he's supposed to release a newer build soon.
The whole thing has become such a chore that I dread. Reinstalling everything over again, entering license codes, reconfiguring each and every app (including complex apps like Pocket Informant, Pocket Breeze, etc). I'm not sure how Jason can manage in 2-3 hrs, it takes me literally days to finish just one PPC (I can be somewhat anal in configuring my apps just so).
Sometimes I get frustrated as to feel the whole thing's just not worth it (including the thousand $$$ spent on the software just this year)
P.S. I use Sprite Backup too and do see the option to "Enable Device Upgrade mode", but from a previous browse of their forums I get impression that in the real world there are many instances where this could not be done successfully (nagging problems creeping up here and there afterwards which might end up wasting more of your time in the future to diagnose). So to be safe I'd preferred to start clean from scratch after an upgrade...
Now we're supposed to go on a trip end of this week, and my own (upgraded) PDA2k still needs to have all its apps reinstalled again, so I have to finish it in the next couple of days, grr. Not sure whether to try to upgrade the JAM before we leave, as I might not have time to finish that.
Seems like instead of enjoying the PPC experience, half my time is spent on just reinstalling all apps from ROM upgrade, or reinstalling after individual app version upgrades (I blame PPCThoughts for always posting new version of this or that app every other day).
I feel the pain too. As was posted recently, a new ROM upgrade from i-mate just came out for the JAM and I still haven't had time to do the upgrade and the whole application-reinstall again. What makes it the more painful, we got the JAM somewhat recently and I've just gone through the whole process of installing/configuring the apps on it.
Well, if you have some time for a little co-operation (exporting the registry before and after the upgrade) , I can help, as with any other PPC owners that wants to do the same. See http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/foru...ic.php?t=40152 on this.
I think there is something else here that is completely being missed which is the hardware device manufacturers.
Microsoft does provide a specification of an OEM hardware device. But, given my limited knowledge, I would have to believe that if the manufacturers really wanted to design a device that would allow upgrades that would not require a hard reset, they could do it.
I would be interested in opinions if this is even a viable option.
The real issue is the Microsoft consumer. Microsoft has setup a dicatorship like business. They say how it is and the consumer excepts it. Stop buying and they will get the hint.
Stop buying? What should we buy instead? Palm OS?
(Symbian seems to be a much better choice than Palm OS though. The newly announced hi-end Nokia models really rock. I wish they weren't so damn expensive, even for us Europeans...)
Well, if you have some time for a little co-operation (exporting the registry before and after the upgrade) , I can help, as with any other PPC owners that wants to do the same. See http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/foru...ic.php?t=40152 on this.
You're missing the point here, Menneisyys. The idea is to make it simple to do without having to resort to extraordinary measures to get the job done. People shouldn't have to ask others to help them out, or search online forums for a consensus on what is the best method, right?
You should be commended for your offers of help, and the things you do to help others out, especially with ROM updates. 8)
I feel your pain Jason, I faced the exact same issue with the same device. I just could not bring myself to resinstall everything. I also had heard the potential issues of using a backup file overtop a new rom, but really it was a no lose situation. If the backup worked fine I saved myself mucho reinstallation time, and if I started seeing issues I simply hard reset and reinstall. Since my update and restore I have noticed no problems or quirks (on the other hand I see minimal improvements)
Thanks much for that very generous offer Menneisyys! I'm sure many people are grateful for all the services you perform I'll try to check into it too...
Quote:
Originally Posted by gtarent
I feel your pain Jason, I faced the exact same issue with the same device. I just could not bring myself to resinstall everything. I also had heard the potential issues of using a backup file overtop a new rom, but really it was a no lose situation. If the backup worked fine I saved myself mucho reinstallation time, and if I started seeing issues I simply hard reset and reinstall. Since my update and restore I have noticed no problems or quirks (on the other hand I see minimal improvements)
My concern had been, what if I had installed/configured 10 apps, then performed a ROM upgrade, then restored those 10 apps from a backup. Afterwards I might not have noticed any major problems right away, and installed/configured 10 more apps (20 total). THEN after awhile I find some insurmountable problem due to having restored from an old-ROM backup. At that point I'd have to hard reset and reinstall/reconfigure 20 apps from scratch, which overall might take more time than if I had just reinstalled the original 10 apps to begin with?
Or perhaps I'd just have this nagging unease in my subconscious if I didn't do a clean reinstall (that's also why when upgrading apps I usually like to uninstall first before installing the new version -- of course that always sucks if all the settings/license info got removed with the older version of the app)... Or, maybe in my case it's partially from a little something bordering on OCD (obsessive compulsive disorder), haha just kidding :mrgreen:
I am the first person to agree with anyone who says "why cant things be made better" ..... but I have slowly come to understand the ramifications of modern capitalism and the nature of the world and we live in ......
Ultimately M$ and their merry gang dont want to release a product which is "perfect" even though they could quite easily provide it .....
They exist to make as much profit as possible (pure and simple) in fact if they could make profit without selling any software/hardware they would stop updating/upgrading/R&D anything - selling stuff is only incedental to their pursuit of money ....
With the above in mind everything becomes crystal clear .....
They will quite intentionally supply flawed software/hardware knowing "most" people will quite happily keep buying their latest "less-flawed" product and be impressed with it !!
A good business keeps getting the customers to buy their product over and over again NOT just sell them one "ideal" product which will last a lifetime ....
Capitalism "forces" inefficiency and deliberate lacking in most if not all product design ..... and here endeth my sermon .... Amen
Personally though, I install most of my apps onto SD card so even after a Hard Reset it doesn't take too long to get things setup - maybe an hour at most .... but your right, its still a god damned royal pain in the ass !!!!
I'll try to check into it too...
Linear Mode
LinkBacks (?)
