You might be interested to know that I DO run my 4700 on full brightness all the time, because it's battery life is so good that I can do.
What I've heard is that the X50 has a really bright screen even at the "medium" setting. I haven't seen the X50, otherwise I'd like to see a side-by-side comparison.
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I haven't seen one either, but the reviews I've seen say it's not as vibrant as the 4700. But then maybe vibrancy and brightness were not the same thing in the reviewers minds?
The 4700 is pretty bright at 50%, and very bright at 100%. I can't imagine any screen being brighter, because I doubt there'd be much point, but I don't know.
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You might be interested to know that I DO run my 4700 on full brightness all the time, because it's battery life is so good that I can do.
What I've heard is that the X50 has a really bright screen even at the "medium" setting. I haven't seen the X50, otherwise I'd like to see a side-by-side comparison.
Sounds good. I tend to use my X5 at the lower end of the brighness scale anyway, so that's not a problem for me.
You might be interested to know that I DO run my 4700 on full brightness all the time, because it's battery life is so good that I can do.
Well, that's good and all :wink:, but you know you're not in the majority - and, heck, it you turned it down a few notches you'd get even better battery life. Max brightness is overkill on any device IMO, unless you're outside in direct sunlight. But hey, it's your Pocket PC. ;-)
I only run mine also at full brightness. I hate running at low brightness, though I was used to it on all my other devices, especially the XDA II.
I can run my 4700 for 3-4 times longer than my other PPCs and its the battery that made me go for the 4700 over the Dell.
Why do these OEMs put in these types of non-overridable behaviors that put a stranglehold on the kiosk mode use of these devices in vertical market business applications?
I agree that it's incredibly stupid...but by the same token, I've never heard of a non-powered kiosk. Isn't that a bit, well, impractical? :-)
What about museum tour-guide handhelds? There's a place in Seattle that I think does this. Basically, you give each person a PDA that has a custom interface.
All this talk of brightness settings is mute until the two devices are side by side and the actual brightness settings can be compared. I liked the hx4705 screen I saw in CompUSA, but it did not stike me as being particularly bright... I'll remember to take my X5 in next time as a comparison.
I haven't seen one either, but the reviews I've seen say it's not as vibrant as the 4700. But then maybe vibrancy and brightness were not the same thing in the reviewers minds?
The 4700 is pretty bright at 50%, and very bright at 100%. I can't imagine any screen being brighter, because I doubt there'd be much point, but I don't know.
From the pics I've seen, and the statements from reviewers, the X50v's screen is brighter, but the colors are more saturated on the 4700. This is at max brightness. I don't know if lowering the X50v's brightness a notch or two would wash out the colors less and bring them closer to looking the same.
Having used an E&B Slipper case with my X5 for the last couple years (and a Vaja slip case on my previous iPaq) I'm thinking about what I'll use on my X50v. The main criteria for me will be to keep the size down to a minimum while giving the screen some protection. I'd like basically a screen protector and some form of adhesive plastic covering for the rest of the case.
Ah. Well, it seems like no matter what case I get, the X50v plus case will be smaller than my X5 plus case. Both Vaja and Sena make pretty small form-fitting cases, but I see how small > nothing.
What about museum tour-guide handhelds? There's a place in Seattle that I think does this. Basically, you give each person a PDA that has a custom interface.
Yeah, the Experience Music Project. I wouldn't consider that a kiosk, that's a vertical application. Those are also custom Windows CE devices that are built to be dropped, have huge batteries, etc.
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All this talk of brightness settings is mute until the two devices are side by side and the actual brightness settings can be compared. I liked the hx4705 screen I saw in CompUSA, but it did not stike me as being particularly bright... I'll remember to take my X5 in next time as a comparison.
Except that the point wasn't that one was brighter than the other, it was that even with the brightness at 100%, the 4700 battery life is awsome. If 100% on a 4700 isn't enough for you, then from what I've seen nothing will be, and if you are happy with it turned down, it will be even more awsome! That's why I asked Jason for a repeat of his Dell tests with the 4700 - anyone choosing between the two will want a like for like comparison.
Certainly the Dell at 50% will not be as bright as the 4700 at 100%, so I guess the only way we'll ever know is if someone we trust (Jason) does a side by side test with both set to the same apparent brightness level (I'd suggest dimmest set at 100%, then the other set down to match would be a fair comparison). We don't need absolute figures as they're meaningless anyway, just a comparrison like "x lasted twice as long as y".
The thread is about battery life, with some posts worrying that VGA drains the battery. The fact is that if it does, HP have managed to solve the problem big time with the 4700, and I just wanted to point out that VGA doesn't have to equal short battery life.
That doesn't mean to say the 4700 is therefore "best", just that if battery life is a key concern for a particular user, it really can't be ignored. I think the HP isbetter than the Dell on battery life, but on other things I don't know. Given the different price levels I doubt there could ever be a clear winner overall.
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What about museum tour-guide handhelds? There's a place in Seattle that I think does this. Basically, you give each person a PDA that has a custom interface.
Yeah, the Experience Music Project. I wouldn't consider that a kiosk, that's a vertical application. Those are also custom Windows CE devices that are built to be dropped, have huge batteries, etc.
Being a non-IT-techy type person, could someone explain what a vertical application is please? In fact, what use are PPC's put to in kiosks? I've never seen one used other than as a conventional PDA over here, so I'm intrigued
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