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Old 10-25-2004, 04:02 PM
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I don't think anyone who is concerned about battery life would ever use their device at full brightness all the time.
Jason,

You might be interested to know that I DO run my 4700 on full brightness all the time, because it's battery life is so good that I can do. Anecdotally I'd say I'm getting at least 3 times the battery life I got out of my 5550 with the same useage pattern. It easily went from 5pm on Friday to 9 am today (Monday), with 5 minute bursts of wi-fi use evey hour or so (average), normal PIM use, and about 1.5 hours of MP3 playback (screen off). There were also 3 automatic backups done to card in that time, and it was still at 23% this morning.

The 5550 would seriously have struggled to get beyond Saturday morning.

I was thinking of getting a second battery for the 4700, but really don't see much point now.

It would be interesting to see your tests repeated for a 4700.
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How about video playback ?
My X50v keeps locking up when I try the video test - I don't hav the final production ROM on it, so it's hard to say what's causing this. :?
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Jason, what is this "overrode the automatic WiFi turn off" you speak of? Is there a setting? What do they call the setting? I don't have my test X50 yet, and I'm too anxious to wait.
No, it's not a setting. When you're using WiFi, and the battery gets to a critical level, a window pops up and asks you if you want to turn off the WiFi to save power because the battery is getting critically low. You can say yes or no, and keep using WiFi...if memory serves. Because this only happens when the battery is very low, it's hard to get a screen shot. I'm doing another round of WiFi tests right now so I'll try to confirm it 100% for you. The X30 had the same feature though. ;-)
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something is weird here...
I know, I'm not pleased with the test results either - so I'm trying another round of testing.
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You might be interested to know that I DO run my 4700 on full brightness all the time, because it's battery life is so good that I can do.
Well, that's good and all :wink:, but you know you're not in the majority - and, heck, it you turned it down a few notches you'd get even better battery life. Max brightness is overkill on any device IMO, unless you're outside in direct sunlight. But hey, it's your Pocket PC. ;-)
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Jason, what is this "overrode the automatic WiFi turn off" you speak of? Is there a setting? What do they call the setting? I don't have my test X50 yet, and I'm too anxious to wait.
No, it's not a setting. When you're using WiFi, and the battery gets to a critical level, a window pops up and asks you if you want to turn off the WiFi to save power....
Damn. Why do these OEMs put in these types of non-overridable behaviors that put a stranglehold on the kiosk mode use of these devices in vertical market business applications?

I'd buy a couple hundred of these a month, and I'm only one of many with similar buying decisions.
 
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Ok, I've updated the text with test results from my X30, since I'm never going to actually review it. ;-)
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Why do these OEMs put in these types of non-overridable behaviors that put a stranglehold on the kiosk mode use of these devices in vertical market business applications?
I agree that it's incredibly stupid...but by the same token, I've never heard of a non-powered kiosk. Isn't that a bit, well, impractical? :-)
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You might be interested to know that I DO run my 4700 on full brightness all the time, because it's battery life is so good that I can do.
What I've heard is that the X50 has a really bright screen even at the "medium" setting. I haven't seen the X50, otherwise I'd like to see a side-by-side comparison.

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You might be interested to know that I DO run my 4700 on full brightness all the time, because it's battery life is so good that I can do.
Well, that's good and all :wink:, but you know you're not in the majority - and, heck, it you turned it down a few notches you'd get even better battery life. Max brightness is overkill on any device IMO, unless you're outside in direct sunlight. But hey, it's your Pocket PC. ;-)
Oh indeed, but:

1) If I get all the battery life I need on full brightness without swapping batteries, and for the first time ever, I do , then there's no advantage to me in turning it down

2) I don't find it overkill. I use it for photographs a lot, and they look far better at full brightness than even a few notches down. But it is what you get used to - I could get used to having it dimmer if I had to, but I've got used to it at it's most vibrant and want to keep it that way!

3) I don't mind being in a minority one bit I wasn't critisizing you for conducting a test at reduced brightness, just trying to illustrate how good the 4700 is.

4) I find that bright sunlight is exactly when I LEAST need the backlight, as the reflective (transflective?) screen actually uses the sunlight instead of the backlight. Likewise darkness needs less backlight. It's "normal" day or room light that I find most requires the backlight.

5) It's very handy for seeing the steps down to my office (log cabin at the bottom of my garden) at night if I forget to tun the outside lights on!!!!!!

6) at full brightness it's easy to see the screen through the tinted flip cover.

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