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Old 07-29-2004, 09:09 PM
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For the love of god Microsoft!! WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COMMON SENSE!!
I would agree with you on this except for one small thing, as one of our fellow PPCT users signature line says;

"The only thing about common sense is it isn't"
 
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Old 07-29-2004, 09:12 PM
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This whole X button fiasco really frustrates me. It blows my mind that Microsoft is dictating to all users of their PocketPC OS that closing an app will not be permited without 12 clicks of the stylus or a third-party utility. It makes no sense!!!! Give me the option to close or minimize an app using buttons that feel intuitive relative to the desktop. Ahhhhhhhh.

I am really beginning to dislike many things about the Windows Mobile OS in general. I have to reboot my iPaq 2210 once or twice per day....often times the task switcher won't switch tasks without a reboot....I can't close an app using the X button (unbelievable).....it takes a PhD to configure basic connectivity.......I can't view my task list without the list always scrolling back to the top all on its own.....most third-party task switchers seem to cause the OS to hang at times....Pocket Outlook keeps ending up with duplicate entries..... All of this is really beginning to get old.

Aren't these just basic functions that any good OS should be able to do well???? Am I missing something???

I often feel that the Windows Mobile OS is roughly the equivalent of running Windows 3.1 on pocket hardware. I have always been a big fan of Microsoft and Windows, but this is the one area where I am really beginning to feel dissatisfied. There is no way I would ever switch to Palm, but I feel like I need to do a little griping!!

OK...<deep breath>.....I feel better now.
 
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Old 07-29-2004, 09:20 PM
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Oh and a question....how does the pocket pc handle memory?

Specifically if the OS isn't using X amount of RAM to store open apps is there a refresh charge to that RAM to maintain the unused portion of RAM?

I guess my question is does having a ton of applications open effect battery life?
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Old 07-29-2004, 09:22 PM
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I often feel that the Windows Mobile OS is roughly the equivalent of running Windows 3.1 on pocket hardware. I have always been a big fan of Microsoft and Windows, but this is the one area where I am really beginning to feel dissatisfied. There is no way I would ever switch to Palm, but I feel like I need to do a little griping!!

OK...<deep breath>.....I feel better now.
Actually I consider WM 2003 to be the Windows 9X of the mobile world. We have yet to see a Windows 2000/XP show up for the Pocket PC yet.
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Old 07-29-2004, 09:25 PM
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I've personally grown to really like the smart minimise functionality. However I agree that the ICON used for this is stupid. It should be a minimise icon with a possible tap/hold to Quit function.
I agree. Smart minimise has grown on me too. Its especially useful in combination with Dynamo. I find myself multi-tasking a lot more than before, as I can easily see the state I left my apps in. Its like having multiple windows open on the desktop.

Smart minimise is not the problem. The problem is the lack of a task bar, so that one can easily shift between apps.

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Old 07-29-2004, 09:28 PM
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I've personally grown to really like the smart minimize functionalty. However I agree that the ICON used for this is stupid. It should be a minimize icon with a possible tap/hold to Quit function.
I agree with Alex...

Or maybe have the Spb Pocket Plus model which let's you set it up the way you want it... tap X for minimize, gesture X for Close... or gesture X for minimize and tap X for close...

This I think saves screen space and still gives full functionality to the single close/smart-minimize icon...

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Old 07-29-2004, 09:29 PM
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I am the minority here. I like the minimalization button very much.

Assuming there is only one icon available, I guess most people will still choose minimalization icon, not close since closing will just make PPC a single task OS. The problem now is if we have enough space for two icons at the right corner. If you never use hand to operate PPC, sure two icons are not a big deal. But you use fingers to operate PPC, there is no possiblility to put two icons there.

Making tab minimalizing and tab/hold closing is a good idea. MS has said somewhere this method was implemented in earlier prototype, but they gave it up because most people won't bother to learn to use and it may attract bitter critism than current situation.

Wisbar is a good program. Because of the conflict between the latest Pocket PC plus battary bar and wisbar, my wisbar is not in startup folder any more. So far, I don't think it bother at all. I mapped one button to Today, once I need minimalize a program, just push the button to return to Today and run another one.

I don't have the slowing down problem either. My PPC automatically run backup at midnight and reset it after backup.
 
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Old 07-29-2004, 09:31 PM
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ActiveSync is the real pain in PPC, we should concentrate on AS complaint. I know some people may never have AS problem at all. One of my friend who purchased h1945 for half year and still didn't install AS at all.
 
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Old 07-29-2004, 09:47 PM
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Default Othee problems

As of late, I have not found task closing/switching apps that handlethings without making other things diffcult. The current Wisbar beta covered up my connection icons and while I was able to drop a button on the bar to activate and shut off the icon, I could not see the status of the connection. I then tried Magic button again and I was soft resetting constantly with this app. Why was I doing this? Because for some odd reason it was the only reason I could get the Today screen back. Tapping on Start/today would not even do it. They need to fix this.....now. In a few years, they will have more screen real estate on about 90 percent of the devices out there....they will have enough room for a taskbar.
 
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Old 07-29-2004, 09:49 PM
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I've personally grown to really like the smart minimize functionalty. However I agree that the ICON used for this is stupid. It should be a minimize icon with a possible tap/hold to Quit function.
This, my friend, is the way to go.
It took me some time to get the right app to manage close/minimize funcionality.
This should be built-in.
 
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