I've been using G1 for the last 10 months. Now I can barely wait 10 days to get my hands on TP2. Android is fine platform, but it has a log way to go before it catch up with WM, no matter how much negative press it gets. And I do miss ease of stylus use, transcriber, Office Mobile and other goodies that come with MS PPC.
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I've been using G1 for the last 10 months. Now I can barely wait 10 days to get my hands on TP2. Android is fine platform, but it has a log way to go before it catch up with WM, no matter how much negative press it gets. And I do miss ease of stylus use, transcriber, Office Mobile and other goodies that come with MS PPC.
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Originally Posted by Master Loon
I lived with WM since the HP on Tmobile. Had the MDA, WIng now G1. I like it. I like it alot, but I am looking now back to getting a WM phone ( touch Pro 2) G1 will remain with me of might give to my son. Again I like it, But there is a lot of catching up to do. I miss some of the business side, like commontime's mnotes for work email. My company has Lotus notes databases. Powerpoint and a few other things.....
WM is not dead yet...They have a lot of work to do in order to stay fresh and relivant. They are indeed playing catch up. And thanks to Samsung and HTC, I think they are just hanging on. Android is stepping it's game up fast, and I think I will be gone from it for a min.....but will come back.
I too am fed up with the G1, it can't do the stuff I fell in love with WM for and the apps aren't all up to the quality I've become accustomed to, Pocket Informant anyone?
Don't get me started on the battery life. My phone should be able to make two 5 min phone calls maybe 10 txts read an email or two and stay on standby from the time I unplug to go to the car and last until I get home at night, this phone can't standby for a workday
The only reason I got this phone is because my Wing was having issues and in February 09 I was not paying $299 for that relic. I can hardly wait the 8 days to get my TP2.
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I too believe that Microsoft will be responsible if WM dies. Their snails-pace reaction to current trends by Apple and Android is sending a 'I don't care' message to all of us. 6.5 should have been released last year and we should be drooling over WM7 already. By the time we see it everthing will have passed it up already.
Microsoft clearly does not have focus on Windows Mobile at this point. The implementation of WM6 is bloated and slow and it does not adapt to new form factors well. Don't even get me started on the implementation of .Net CF...
Microsoft is stuck serving two masters here. On one hand they're trying to have a reasonable consistent user experience across a wide range of form factors so they end up getting stuck with a least common denominator UI which doesn't please anybody. On the other hand, they have to give enough flexibility to their OEMs to allow them to innovate which makes the first goal nearly impossible to do well.
I see Android having a problem with 3rd party applications once the form-factors start diverging. It's incredibly difficult to develop applications for a device with an unknown form-factor and have the application be of any value.
What Apple understands better than anybody is the need to be consistent. If the iPhone came in more than one form-factor, it would not be nearly as successful as it has been. Of course the very thing that makes the Apple/iPhone experience so compelling is also the thing that frustrates me the most...their iron grip over the platform and what applications are allowed.
I think Microsofts best option is to extend the already tightly controled Zune platform into the phone market. They clearly need more control over the user experience and over the form-factor to be successful.
That also brings up an interesting point. If Google is giving Android away for free, what is in it for them? Can we expect to see advertising on our handhelds at some point or is Google's intention to eliminate the other platforms. If it's the latter, I expect the Justice Department will be spending more time on Google/Apple in the future.
I too believe that Microsoft will be responsible if WM dies. Their snails-pace reaction to current trends by Apple and Android is sending a 'I don't care' message to all of us. 6.5 should have been released last year and we should be drooling over WM7 already. By the time we see it everthing will have passed it up already.
I agree, MS moves slowly, I wish it can be more in line with the WM market, altough I don't believe it should follow every trend that shows up in the mobile market. WM first of all is a serious business platform, not fly by night Mobile Buterfly. Just remember those stupid Verizon commercials for Samsung Instinct after iPhone came out - "Touch it and it does [stuff]! Wow!!!" Quiet revolting, indeed. MS should concentrate on building core functions, as far as UI and performance. Leave all those "trendy stuff" to developers, BTW they do a very good job!
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I think a better question would be "Is Microsoft Killing Windows Mobile?" Microsoft's complacency has opened the market to Android, Palm, Apple, RIM etc.
Hear hear. I agree, Microsoft was doing a great job killing windows mobile before Google or Apple invaded their space on the consumer side. Plus their response has been slower than a slug. Blackberry had MS nailed in the corporate side long before Apple hit the consumer side with the iPhone.
Being second or third to the game means that you must come with better "weapons" than the people already playing. Apple's iPhone has done that... MS' responses IMHO seem to fall short of what is supplied by the iPhone from the average consumer's point of view... (MS have you not learned your lesson from the Wii vs. Xbox360 battle, iPod vs. Zune?)
Is Android killing Windows Mobile? Not for me. Neither is the iPhone.
The plain simple fact of the matter is that Android doesn't do everything I need it to do. Neither does the iPhone. Or the Blackberry for that matter.
Yes, MS is being very slow bringing updates to the platform, but in my opinion they've earned a little rest. iPhone OS, Android and RIM still, after all this time, have yet to actually implement features that Windows Mobile has had for a very long time. (Really, it never occured to Apple that people might need cut-and-paste? And these are the updates that iPhone fans use as fodder against WM?)
In my opinion, WM has some ways to go interface-wise, but all those other mobile OSs are the ones still playing catch-up features-wise. Until I can do everything I can do with WM on any other phone, it's WinMo all the way for me, no matter how clunky the interface may be.
Thank goodned for HTC and touch flo. That ease of use was hard to duplicate on the wing. The android is nice. But the masses prefer ease of use.....Why Iphone is so easy to use.
Android is getting there and WM should have been there.
Again thanks to the Phone suppliers for stepping up to the bar and trying to make a pina colada from on cherry and a bite of a pinapple.
I am kind of ready to clunk down $300 for a wm phone..In this case TP2...Side track to tmo taking out the second camera...that sucks.
WM I will give anothe shot...and might get shot by my wife in the process.
In my previous post I said I'm giving the iPhone a serious look over and it will most likely be my 1st Apple purchase ever but this is only because Android and WinMo and even BB and Palm are trying to copy the iPhone with full touch screen devices with all sorts of swipes and swishes that aren't always intuitive or necessary.
I don't think the iPhone is setting any trends. There are whole bunch of people that will buy anything that has an half eaten Apple on the back of it and no look-a-like with WinMo or Android will make them switch over. I'm not saying the iPhone is a bad device. I just wish WinMo would stick with hardware buttons like a d-pad, get a decent browser built in, and give some sort of software upgrade path.
What I don't get is why Microsoft offers both Windows Mobile and the Zune OS. I don't get it. Shouldn't it be one platform? Are they competing with each other internally?
Microsoft had for many years a good Mobile OS that did the job fairly well. Internet browsing was bad, but for calendaring and general PIM functions it was very good.
I personally own an HTC Touch HD and I also sold my iPhone for it!
I know I am not currently representative of the average consumer...I am a Microsoft specialist and work with their products.
I believe that if someone needs a phone that can go to the Internet (fairly well), do emailing, and calendaring, then Windows Mobile is a good choice. I haven't used an Android phone yet, so I cannot comment on that, but from what I have seen it is really very competitive and more open to customizations than Windows Mobile.
I believe that Microsoft will eventually get it..It is never too late. They are still in the game but need to move fast, faster than the others...
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