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Old 05-29-2009, 04:21 AM
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You should talk to Dave. He found one he likes.
Honestly, for me it's just the wrong approach. Besides, my new car has a 3.5mm input jack, so that's what I'll be using.
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Old 05-29-2009, 05:32 AM
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Great first post! Send me a private message and I'll send you a Zune Thoughts microlight. I love see new users come in and really contribute to the community.
Thanks a lot, you've made me feel really welcome. *Blush*
I'm a long time reader, but your promise of a 'rip roaring discussion' in the Zuneboards thread was an offer I couldn't refuse, and forced me to post.

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Also, I'm hoping the user experience on the device will be superb...fast, fluid, etc. I hope they don't only tap into the GPU for video playback, but for the whole UI.
After watching those videos, wow were you right. That UI looks absolutely amazing, probably the best looking I've ever seen, especially when paired with that screen. Speaking of the screen, that too looks pretty great, even with the not too great resolution. Greater pixel density couldn't have hurt, but it doesn't look like it's going to affect the experience greatly, especially with all those massive thumbnails.

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I'll say this much: the fact that the iPod Touch comes in 8 GB, 16 GB, and 32 GB capacities doesn't seem to have hurt sales any, right? So I don't think people are going to turn away from the Zune due to capacity if it tops out at 32 GB.
I agree, but Apple was never touting the touch as a HD device. As someone said earlier, when you're marketing being able to carry and play HD media back as a main feature of the device, anyone who will actually find this useful and isn't just buying in to the hype will be severely hampered by a 32GB limit. I'd be annoyed by that with just music, let alone putting a collection of HD video on it as well.

But at the same time, I agree with you when you said that how much a 64GB unit would cost would mean the market was so small it wouldn't be worthwhile. So it's kind of a lose-lose situation. I don't think we're quite at the stage yet where a device like this can live up to it's full potential. 1-2 years maybe, hopefully, but not yet.

The only other solution would be to use a hard drive, but this would add significant mass to the device, and would cost some of it's sex appeal, which I don't think is the direction Microsoft want to take this Zune. A hard drive would also struggle to load all those gorgeous UI elements fast enough, just like the iPod classics struggle with coverflow.
 
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I think a lot of people here are missing an excellent fact about the ZuneHD - it's upgradability... And hello? Xbox? History has shown Microsoft upgrades quite routinely, and what is released in September/Fall will not be 100%. Don't get me wrong, it will be extremely functional, but there's a lot of room for growth from there. Further integration with Xbox (it's a fact that the top Apps sold in Apple's App store are games) and connecting the two (Zune and Xbox) experience will soon be a huge selling point. Mark my words...

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I think a lot of people here are missing an excellent fact about the ZuneHD - it's upgradability... And hello? Xbox? History has shown Microsoft upgrades quite routinely, and what is released in September/Fall will not be 100%.
And? No one is actually talking about the OS itself... Not quite sure what your point is here...
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Not quite sure what your point is here...
Upgrades and Games. If the rumored Tegra Chip is inside, which is likely since the device will need to push the HD content out, then games from the Xbox platform could be a real option.

Sure the iPod Touch may be the "funnest" iPod, but it's not connected to any game platforms (sure, EA - but that's hardly a platform).

Xbox branded games on Zune would be awesome.
 
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Old 05-29-2009, 07:40 PM
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And? No one is actually talking about the OS itself... Not quite sure what your point is here...
Granted your original post was hardware-centric, I think the thread has expanded to discuss the product as a whole. That's hardware and software.

I don't think there are very many discussions about the iPod Touch that dont eventually discuss the OS or the AppStore.

I believe ACE's point is that his excitement is not just about this initial offering but over what appears to be Microsoft's new direction for the platform.
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I believe ACE's point is that his excitement is not just about this initial offering but over what appears to be Microsoft's new direction for the platform.
Indeed. It's a powerful vision, but they've been talking about this vision for YEARS. The problem isn't their lack of vision, the problem is their lack of ability to execute upon that vision...
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Indeed. It's a powerful vision, but they've been talking about this vision for YEARS. The problem isn't their lack of vision, the problem is their lack of ability to execute upon that vision...
Glad you said it because if I did, I'd be called an Apple fanboi.
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i own a Zune 8 GB, i love Zune, and wen the Zune HD comes out, most def i will be buying that. wut im asking is, if the iPod Touch products can hav almost all the apps, will the Zune HD be able to do apps as well. if not, then how will you expect the Zune HD to be better than the iPod Touch?

Just cause it has an HD Radio on it doesn't make it all that exciting to me. Sirius satellite radio already came with an MP3 player that can do that. and is HD video really necessary for a small product such as that. I have an HD DVR recorder at home, and i enjoy it alot.

too me i say the iPod Touch will top off the Zune HD. The only reason i like Zune better is because of the Zune Pass, and i hate Limewire, Bearshare, Frostwire, etc... I also like Zune better because the videos don't have to be downloaded from Zune, like how Apple Products have to have videos downloaded from iTunes. Lastly, in order for me to sign up for iTunes, why do i HAVE to have a credit card immediately???

P.S. I still like Zune better, and can't wait for the Zune HD to come out.
 
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Old 07-21-2009, 05:54 PM
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Lastly, in order for me to sign up for iTunes, why do i HAVE to have a credit card immediately???
While I agree that Apple should make this more clear when you sign up for an account, you actually do not need a credit card to sign up for an account. See http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/store/creditcard/
 
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