When I moved from a Palm to a Pocket PC one of the things that 'enabled' me to do so was the availability of FITALY for the Pocket PC - it was the first piece of software I purchased for my new machine. And it actually works better on the PPC than on the Palm!
It really seems like PalmOS is on the downward slide to oblivion - why anyone would buy a PalmOS machine now is beyond me - if you desperately need to run software that is only available on the Palm you can run it under Styletap on a PPC.
I do wish they would do a WM5 version. There are a number of softwares that do not work [or work satisfactorily] on my x51v, and FITALY is the one I'm missing the most. However I am refamiliarizing myself with Calligrapher [after upgrading to version 8], and it is neat. I still really miss FITALy, though, and had been using it since my Palm days.
Huh? In my brief stint with WM5 on my hx2415, Fitaly worked just fine. The only caveat was that it could not be selected as the default SIP, else on a soft reset, you'd get NO SIP! (At least that was my experience).
I've since reverted back to WM2003SE on my 2415, but not because Fitaly doesn't work - it does.
I will ABSOLUTELY not buy any device on which Fitaly doesn't work unless it has a thumb board. End of story.
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Based on your experience, I will go ahead and give it a shot on my x51v. I didn't try it because it shows on two WM5 compatibility lists as not being compatible, and I haven't been willing to risk it because I've had enough hassles with stuff that is stated to be compatible with WM5. I've never used FITALY as the default input method, anyway, as I always like to limit what's loaded during start-up. I just switch to it when I go to inputting.
If it causes me any problems, I have actually become very good at hard-resetting the x51v.
I have actually become very good at hard-resetting the x51v.
Ouch! That is not encouraging.
How long does it take to do a hard reset on your X51v? Is all your information still there due to the new persistent memory? How long for a soft reset? Are you a software tester or doing something extraordinary to need so many resets?
I have actually become very good at hard-resetting the x51v.
Ouch! That is not encouraging.
How long does it take to do a hard reset on your X51v? Is all your information still there due to the new persistent memory? How long for a soft reset? Are you a software tester or doing something extraordinary to need so many resets?
Actually, the data is no longer there after a hard reset, so it is just as painful as with any other PPC.
I am involved in one closed beta, but it turns out not being problematic. Some of the biggest problems I have had were with not realizing in advance that I should install and run Tweaks2k before installing and running anything else. Tweaks2k turns off the security install "feature" in WM5, which, while not a real bad idea, is very poorly implemented within WM5: when you are installing, you get a box that asks something like "do you want to install this, since it doesn't have a security certificate?" If you say yes, the OS authorizes the executable file associated with the installation but not any of its associated DLLs. You wind up with stuff that runs incredibly poorly. And, no software seems to have a certificate. Not even the latest MS Voice. One of the reasons I bought the x51v was to be able to run MW Voice without worrying about how much memory it takes up. But, MS Voice command is not fully compatible with the x51v implementation of WM5, in that saying "show contact name" shows a blank screen (as does "call contact name," although one user reported that the latter actually works for him). So, to get to the point, finally, a lot of the resetting has been to get back to a performance level that was acceptable, and finding out what software really works on it and what does not. You can see why I have been reluctant to load FITALY, given that some have reported it to be incompatible, since some stuff does not work that you would think for sure would work.
I'm looking ahead, and call it a hunch or an instinct, but for some reason to me, I think this whole thing marks the beginning of the end for the Palm OS.
Are you kidding? The "beginning of the end" for Palm was a long time ago - probably when PalmSource announced they would not be developing the OS in its current form anymore but would start working on a Linux-based version not to be released for at least 1-2 years. This is just another nail in the coffin!
I suspect few people associated with the Pocket PC world have a reference at Wikipedia. Sort of puts his comments about Palm's handling of versions into perspective.
Okay, after having three White Screens of Death on my x51v today, and two non-power-ons, (both are probs that some others are reporting on aximsite), I did another hard reset and have installed, so far, only two programs, with one of them being FITALY. It seems to work just fine, and apparently (from what I have read above and confirmed on the fitaly.com forums), as long as I do not set it to my default SIP, it'll continue to work fine.
For at least the next few days, I'm not going to install any other programs on my x51v. The x50v will go back to being my primary device until I am convinced that the x51v can run okay. If, after a few days, it still runs okay, then I may add other programs one by one.
But, back to the topic at hand: Thank You for letting me know that FITALY really does work on WM5, despite what the compatibility lists report. I am DELIGHTED to have it working, as it is one of the things I missed the most. (Still miss MS Voice Command and I understand that iSilo is a bit buggy for now, but I am convinced it will be fixed by the second or third beta).
BTW, I concur that FITALY's announcement to bail out of Palm is just one more sign that Palm OS is dead. It was a good idea that just never matured while everything else around it did.
Are you kidding? The "beginning of the end" for Palm was a long time ago - probably when PalmSource announced they would not be developing the OS in its current form anymore but would start working on a Linux-based version not to be released for at least 1-2 years. This is just another nail in the coffin!
Well, yes, you're right. I believe that Palm has been on a downward slope for a number of years now - they've consistently lost percentage point after percentage point of market share to Microsoft, and I've anticipated their demise for quite some time. But someone could argue that they would lose market share only up to a certain point and then maintain. Not that I believe that myself, but still...
This, however, just made things clear to me more than ever before.
I'm looking ahead, and call it a hunch or an instinct, but for some reason to me, I think this whole thing marks the beginning of the end for the Palm OS.
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Well, yes, you're right. I believe that Palm has been on a downward slope for a number of years now - they've consistently lost percentage point after percentage point of market share to Microsoft, and I've anticipated their demise for quite some time. But someone could argue that they would lose market share only up to a certain point and then maintain. Not that I believe that myself, but still...
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