[Damion Chaplin]

Wow, really? You like that pop-up keyboard? Yeesh.

Gerard, I'm afraid I have to disagree. I've been waiting for a thumboard on a PPC for years. Just because you don't see the purpose doesn't mean I bought it because it's 'in fashion'. I couldn't care less about the blackberry/sidekick phenomena, I just wanted a way to type articles and emails without using the stylus. I agree a nice small keyboard is superior for text entry to a thumboard, but how large would that make my handheld? Hint: It wouldn't be a handheld.

In short, I bought a thumboard because I didn't want a full keyboard and I hate stylus input. It was certainly a common-sense decision on my part, no matter how 'delusional' you think us K-JAM users are... So please don't imply that I'm simply 'doing what I was told' unless you're implying that I did what I told myself to do, in which case you're correct. Somehow, I don't think that's what you meant though.

So relax dude. Different strokes fer different folks. You and I are obviously different and thus require our own self-determined strokes. :wink:

[Damion Chaplin]

Wow, really? You like that pop-up keyboard? Yeesh.

Gerard, I'm afraid I have to disagree. I've been waiting for a thumboard on a PPC for years. Just because you don't see the purpose doesn't mean I bought it because it's 'in fashion'. I couldn't care less about the blackberry/sidekick phenomena, I just wanted a way to type articles and emails without using the stylus. I agree a nice small keyboard is superior for text entry to a thumboard, but how large would that make my handheld? Hint: It wouldn't be a handheld.

In short, I bought a thumboard because I didn't want a full keyboard and I hate stylus input. It was certainly a common-sense decision on my part, no matter how 'delusional' you think us K-JAM users are... So please don't imply that I'm simply 'doing what I was told' unless you're implying that I did what I told myself to do, in which case you're correct. Somehow, I don't think that's what you meant though.

So relax dude. Different strokes fer different folks. You and I are obviously different and thus require our own self-determined strokes. :wink:

[Pdaholic]

Originally Posted by netboy

what's with the EXTRA build-in keyboard?? we already have a popup keyboard!

The "extra build-in keyboard" is because pecking with two fingers is much faster than pecking with a stylus on a tiny screen.

I don't know how many people want a built-in keyboard and how many don't (poll, anyone?), but I can see the keyboard as being a better way for the general public to input info on phones. That's why they are selling. The keyboard sure sold me in regards to input, and it had NOTHING to do with style.

That said, I don't know how well this device will do. Remember the old Jornada 720 series? Too small to touch type (at least for my hands) and too big to carry in a pocket. Made neither a decent laptop nor handheld. The NEC Mobile Pro 900 series was a perfect laptop replacement--if you didn't mind your laptop not actually running Windowz. HTC universal, Sony Clie UX50 and the like have done well because they can be pocketable and make for a better thumbboarding experience than the traditional small-button thumbboards (Ipaq 4350, treos). I presume this device will go the way of the Jornada 720.

[bbrockie]

I hope they can swap the 'Z' with the 'Y' on this QWERTZ keyboard :mrgreen:

[Marcel_Proust]

Originally Posted by netboy

no, that because they have no other options! i really really wanted a VGA pdaPhone WITHOUT build-in qwerty keyboard. what's with the EXTRA build-in keyboard?? we already have a popup keyboard!

well i like qwerty keyboards, but i hope you get your wish. if hp released a phone update to the hx4700, that would be just swell, and I hope they can see a market in that.
for those of us who like keyboards though, i just don't see what this machine has over the full VGA HTC Universal. and if they can't bear the size, the new non vga HTC.

[desertrat_blog]

Originally Posted by netboy

what's with the EXTRA build-in keyboard?? we already have a popup keyboard!

What, you mean that stupid thing that takes up half the screen, and in badly written programs obscures what you're trying to enter? One would've thought that with the 300% increase in screen real-estate that a VGA display has over a QVGA display that problem would be eliminated, but no, as of WM2003SE there is still no significant/useful support for VGA. So what's the point of a big shiny VGA display that shrinks to uselessness when you start entering text?