Microsoft has this TODAY, but the EFFIN carriers won't let them put it on the phone. ATT for instance EXPLICITLY stripped Windows Live Mobile from the WM6 phones it carries. If I were Microsoft I would start saying FU to the carriers just like Apple did to ATT and put whatever they want on the phone.
I've been a strong advocate of that since Apple released the iPhone.
If Apple got that sweet deal, why didn't Microsoft, do the same? Especially now that they own Danger (though those reasons still are perfectly clear if they aren't going to put Windows Mobile on the device).
Even if they simply sold the phone from their own website it would be better than being hamstrung for the immediate release of WinMo 6.1 by the carriers who have their own agenda to worry about.
Heck, they don't even have to sell a phone, just offer every software upgrade straight from Microsoft.
I can understand working in partnership with partners but a free upgrade for everything from 6.0 to 6.9. I can understand Windows Mobile 7 needed an upgrade to phone specs but ....
I think your site may want to make the switch to covering all smartphones, especially the iPHONE.
After years of WM & 1 Palm, my 1st HPC, then my Palm 3c & then Jornada, followed by numerous iPAQ's, WM/Pocket PC's, & finally trying to converge 1st w/ a 8125, then a Tilt & Treo 750, my conclusion is iPHONE is SUPERIOR. iPHONE's very rarely, if ever lock up, & Mobile web browsing is da bomb, straight outta the box! With the additiona of Pocket Informant coming out on an iPHONE, I will be making the switch & the x50v will be on eBAY!
I also just received my last Smartphone magazine in the mail for its dumbed down content & lack of anything worthwhile coming out that really competes with the iPHONE. Sadly, MS had the chance to stay on top with Palm as a competitor but they have fallen so far behind it's pitiful. Just a rant with the iPHONE buzz that's out today!
True, but it's a lot nicer paint than the mess we got with WM (and, yes, I do have hosted Exchange).
The only thing I feel that the new iPhone could really use is an SD slot, but I guess I'll live. Come JUL, I'll say goodbye to 8 years of PPC/WM use and hundreds of dollars of WM software. I'm just sick of the ******** and ready for a change.
Mike, you said it better than I did!!! & I also have spent thousands on WM devices along with hundreds on WM software. Sad Day!
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i switched to zenfolioo. similar, but better looking galleries and a superb web 2.0esque backend.
I must be... because every time there is talk of Exchange support on the iPhone or about mobileme etc. and people start comparing it to existing offerings, no one mentions the lack synchronization with Outlook Tasks and the fact that is a major deal breaker for someone who uses them extensively! (like me)
ajwalker, Jason - everyone else not complaining about tasks: are you guys secretly using something else to manage tasks and todo's that you can somehow synchronize over exchange without explicit support for task synchronization (on the iphone)?
I know Outlook on Macs doesn't have task support. And as far as I know, there's no timeframe or word on when this may be available on Outlook for Mac and/or iPhone.
I am only wondering why no one complains about it enough... I mean its a very big deal for me and I would think a lot of people use tasks... then again, maybe not. Maybe I should stop too and be happy and buy an iPhone. Life would be simpler with fewer things to do when there's no one to remind me
Some random thoughts..Everything MobileME is already avaible for free elsewhere.. Live (skydrive,exchange (mail2web is free..)), Google docs, Yahoo! etc...
How many people realize the Apple's MobileMe is using Microsoft's ActiveSync Framework and Exchange ( $->MS) and that calling ActiveSync; "ActiveStink" on stage during the presentation was beyond ridiculous?
The only thing that stinks is Apple's constant idiot juvenile attitude.
All Apple did is wrap ActiveSync and Exchange in a flash/ajax website and charge 99$/y for it.
All Apple did is wrap ActiveSync and Exchange in a flash/ajax website and charge 99$/y for it.
No, that is a part of what they did but it is not all they did. Blind anti-Apple bashing is just as juvenile as Apple fanboi-ism IMO. And if you don't have an Exchange server through your work, where pray tell do you get hosted Exchange for free for your WM device? And does it sync photos and files? And does it sync to native Mac applications on your Mac (I'm not talking about syncing to Office for Mac) and Outlook on your PCs? I'm not sure how well this all works, but I'll definitely be checking out the free trial come July. If it does work, they will have provided a great cross-platform (Mac+PC) information syncing solution.
I agree that the ActiveStink comment was a low blow and not befitting of them, but weren't they referring to the desktop to mobile Sync component (also known as Windows Mobile Device Center under Vista)? That component truly is worthy of the name "ActiveStink" and has been called such by many WM fans on this and many other PPC-fan sites.
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How many people realize the Apple's MobileMe is using Microsoft's ActiveSync Framework and Exchange ( $->MS) and that calling ActiveSync; "ActiveStink" on stage during the presentation was beyond ridiculous?
well ActiveSync is SOO last year. Windows Mobile Device Center is a cinch.
I think for Exchange Activesync Microsoft needs to take the approach with enterprises that "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" I currently have zero problems with Exchange Activesync pushing to my phone. The blackberry server solution is stupid too....all that overhead just to sync with a blackberry. rubbish. Microsoft currently owns the enterprise, and they need to take active steps to defend that area while rolling up a consumer solution based on live services. Today is the day to take a stand with the carriers. Offer a WCDMA Zune phone to consumers with all the Live bits installed on it. Sell it direct to the retail channels for $199, skip the carriers altogether.
ajwalker, Jason - everyone else not complaining about tasks: are you guys secretly using something else to manage tasks and todo's that you can somehow synchronize over exchange without explicit support for task synchronization (on the iphone)?
No, I don't really use tasks anymore. I know I should, but on the Outlook side of things I set up a fairly sophisticated series of colour-coded categories, and none of that carries over to the Windows Mobile side of things so I kind of gave up.
You're right though, for users of tasks, MobileMe doesn't seem to offer anything useful.
... and that calling ActiveSync; "ActiveStink" on stage during the presentation was beyond ridiculous?
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Originally Posted by Dyvim
I agree that the ActiveStink comment was a low blow and not befitting of them, but weren't they referring to the desktop to mobile Sync component (also known as Windows Mobile Device Center under Vista)? That component truly is worthy of the name "ActiveStink" and has been called such by many WM fans on this and many other PPC-fan sites.
To be fair, Phil was trying to calm the crowd down after realizing what was said. I think it was more a Freudian slip than an intentional dig.
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