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Old 01-09-2007, 10:48 PM
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I love the graphics and icons... they are way cool. Cingular may even end up with a lot of new subscribers as a result of this device, and only $499 for the 4GB model ($599 for the 8GB)? You really can't beat that. If the screen is a 16x9 aspect ratio, then a 3.5" screen at 160ppi would be about 275x488... pretty good resolution.
It's 320x480 as per the tech specs. I'll put a link to the tech specs in the frontpage post.

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I didn't like the fact that it doesn't have 3G. Instead, it's a quad-band GSM + EDGE.
Ditto. I think it's pretty clear the phone is targeted to the consumer, who may not necessarily need 3G. Still, I'm surprised. You'd think a device like this would be ideal for next-gen video or audio.

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Old 01-09-2007, 10:54 PM
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I was looking at the pictures on GSMArena and wow, the interface at least looks slick and amazing. Even though I'm an avid Windows user, the OS X interface has never ceased to amaze me, from its design to its hardware-accelerated smoothness. As someone pointed out, this has a full OS X OS so it should be plenty powerful to make some amazing 3rd-party applications - heck it could even blow WM out of the water in terms of versatility and power, given enough adoption from developers. Here's hoping that tri-band UMTS/HSDPA will be added later, and maybe they'll take this a little further and somehow develop a model with a slide-out keyboard.

On a more positive note for Windows Mobile, maybe this will push its development a few steps further because after seeing a device like the iPhone, I'm just about ready to jump ship :wink: .
 
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:02 PM
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Hmm... That zooming functionality reminds me of what Picsel browser did some time ago on a palm device.
(Page renders 100% like on desktop, tap the screen once and tap again, this time holding and dragging. Then it zooms smoothly as you drag)

Wonder what ever happened to it? It was fast, really fast to use, cool and almost ready. It also had browser history as screenshots of pages. (the feature that nokia browser touts nowadays)
 
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:04 PM
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having used xp, and vista, there is nothing like osx. they don't even begin to compare. xp users don't know what they are missing. it is a fundamentally better computer experience all around.

Funny. I've used them all extensively. I've yet to get excited by OSX. I guess I must be too complex to realise what it is that I should missing :-)
I have to agree with SteveHoward999. I've also used XP and OSX extensively, and I much prefer Windows. I don't get all the Apple hype, but as a Cingular subscriber, I'll probably go this route eventually.
 
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:11 PM
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Errr ... did anyone notice? NO HSDPA, NO UMTS, NO GPRS ... only EDGE. For a push mail devices the iPhone just lost half its sales potential .... In Europe, EDGE is a technology that is on the verge of extinction .... Nice going Apple!
 
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:20 PM
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Hard times for Microsoft. Finally!

kiwi, don't write so much BS, please.
 
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:27 PM
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You guys dont get it.

Consumers will lap this device up just like they did with the RAZR range of phones.

Hell, the use of Bluetooth devices.. mainly headsets has only just become apparant here in North America.

This is a CONSUMER device.. the cutting edge is in the marketing and Hype. Consumers will lap up anything they are given, even if there is a better alternative!! ie. Honda Cars, "Palm Pilots" :devilboy:
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:39 PM
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You guys dont get it.

Consumers will lap this device up just like they did with the RAZR range of phones.

Hell, the use of Bluetooth devices.. mainly headsets has only just become apparant here in North America.

This is a CONSUMER device.. the cutting edge is in the marketing and Hype. Consumers will lap up anything they are given, even if there is a better alternative!! ie. Honda Cars, "Palm Pilots" :devilboy:
Honda Cars and PalmPilots? hmmmm.....seems to me consumers are pretty wise there. Hondas are great and with Toyota are killing detroit with their superior products. Palm was popular when it was good, and consumers are voting with their feet now.
maybe the devil icon was an indication you are pulling my leg. but with some people here actually thinking xp is better than osx, which is fine, but is like saying you prefer macdonalds over a gourmet meal at a high end restaurant, i just don't know anymore.
people are missing the point, they are quoting pixels etc. apple will provide a flexible device capable of doing a lot. a built in 8 gb and osx. but it's the smooth interface and operability that will matter. easy to use. powerful. efficient. the pretty icons are nice but they are not the main thing. and apple will blow wm5 out of the water in usability. or force it to innovate. it's hard to see how wm5, palm, whatever that other system we don't see in north america, and blackberry are all going to survive. blackberry will cause it's lean and mean and efficient. i don't know about wm5. much will depend on the big lumbering machine and their commitment.

also, what's being forgotten here is this is running OSX. (i hope.) if that is true then the implications i don't think have quite sunk in yet.
 
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:40 PM
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Intriguing -- I'll probably get one when the next generation comes out.

It looks like the iPhone has a similar finish as the current iPods -- and will probably be just as easily scratched. Put it directly in a case!

Will it be possible to add third-party OSX apps? Is there a future for me as an iPhone developer?
 
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:47 PM
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I was looking at the pictures on GSMArena and wow, the interface at least looks slick and amazing. Even though I'm an avid Windows user, the OS X interface has never ceased to amaze me, from its design to its hardware-accelerated smoothness. As someone pointed out, this has a full OS X OS so it should be plenty powerful to make some amazing 3rd-party applications - heck it could even blow WM out of the water in terms of versatility and power, given enough adoption from developers. Here's hoping that tri-band UMTS/HSDPA will be added later, and maybe they'll take this a little further and somehow develop a model with a slide-out keyboard.

On a more positive note for Windows Mobile, maybe this will push its development a few steps further because after seeing a device like the iPhone, I'm just about ready to jump ship :wink: .
it uses OS x, but it will never be full os. There is no possiblity that this device has more than 1gb ROM. If you play with linux a little bit, the most stripped linux can be only 100mb, so I believe this OS is almost a highly stripped os x, which means installing any third party applications will need install a lot of libraries at the same time.

I didn't see any world/excel/powerpoint icons on the interface. what's the problem?
 
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