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Old 01-09-2007, 10:12 PM
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Default Two things...

1) The iPhone is huge... As a comparison, it is a full inch and an half taller than the Axim x51v. Sure, the Axim is not a phone, but it is considered a pretty big device by today's standards (at least when compared to the Moto Q and Excalibur that Steve Jobs was making fun of).

2) During the keynote, the general impression was that the screen was fabulous, like nothing we've seen before. Yet, now that the specs are out, the screen's resolution is only 320 x 480. For reference, WM High DPI screens are 480 x 640. Talk about disappointing.
 
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Old 01-09-2007, 10:12 PM
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Looks great to me. I'm a recent 'switcher' and really love my Macs, but I'm still a Smartphone user (thanks to MissingSync) because they (smartphones) meet my needs. I carry a MacBook, an Ipod and a Smartphone with me almost everywhere I go (yes, the bathroom is included) and if I can get rid of a device here and there I'd be happy.

- 'Push-Imap-Email' from Yahoo looks interesting.
- Great Screen
- Great size
- OS X is great and I wonder what it'll be like on the phone.
- Screen looks like a magnet for finger smudgies.
- I agree with Bev - no memory expansion is a bit of a drag.

So, who in Canada will carry this? i assume it'll be Rogers - what with it being GSM and the Rogers/Yahoo relationship, but Rogers has never sold a WiFi enabled phone.
it's bye bye windows mobile as soon as i can me one of these things. i suppose you will have to get an unlocked one. having used xp, and vista, there is nothing like osx. they don't even begin to compare. xp users don't know what they are missing. it is a fundamentally better computer experience all around.
i would bet apple is going to do a very nice job on this. the multitouch screen input will be something like nobody has ever seen.
i still think some people will prefer the keyboard model.
how they will get osx on this, i don't know.
i doubt this will be another newton. jobs refused to launch anything until now. and anybody who underestimates what this machine is going to be like should look at apple's recent track record.
 
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Old 01-09-2007, 10:18 PM
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being a recent convert to a mac for home use, I was totally floored by this announcement!

wow!

Remember this is aimed at Joe/Jane consumer.. a lot of my non tech friends were emailing me about this today.

This device is aimed at that group of people. Not the PPC geeks we are... but more mainstream people. :devilboy:
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Old 01-09-2007, 10:21 PM
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Windows Mobile and associated HTC devices have really slacked off on real innovation and rightfully so because they've had virtually no competition in the market especially with Palm dying a slow death.

If anything, Apple is going to bring about a new level of competition for Microsoft and HTC that can only make them stronger..that is if they up their level of innovation to compete.

I don't care what anyone else says. This is the most significant point about the iPhone.

PPC, Windows Mobile and Windows Smartphones have stagnated over the last 3 years. Meantime 'simple' cell phones made by companies like Motorola and Nokia have become increasingly innovaive and powerful. They've as good as caught up with Windows Mobile and soon will leave it for dust.

The iPhone can only add energy to that innovation, and unless HTC, HP and Microsoft have something very special going on that we've not heard of, they are going to be floundering very soon - ironically just as the US market is finally discovering the power and versatility of the platform!!!
 
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Old 01-09-2007, 10:22 PM
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being a recent convert to a mac for home use, I was totally floored by this announcement!

wow!

Remember this is aimed at Joe/Jane consumer.. a lot of my non tech friends were emailing me about this today.

This device is aimed at that group of people. Not the PPC geeks we are... but more mainstream people. :devilboy:
this has full osx where if you want you can script, or even go to the UNIX terminal....the mac is as seamless and beautiful as you want it to be.
 
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Old 01-09-2007, 10:22 PM
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Default Re: Two things...

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1) The iPhone is huge... As a comparison, it is a full inch and an half taller than the Axim x51v. Sure, the Axim is not a phone, but it is considered a pretty big device by today's standards (at least when compared to the Moto Q and Excalibur that Steve Jobs was making fun of).
I have a Moto Q and also thought it looked really tall compared to that. Then i checked Apple's specs with Motorola's and the Q and iPhone are almost exactly the same size!
Here are the dimensions taken from apple.com and motorola.com (H x W x D)
Q: 116mm x 64mm x 11.5mm
iPhone: 115mm x 61mm x 11.6mm
 
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Old 01-09-2007, 10:24 PM
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Default Re: Two things...

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1) The iPhone is huge... As a comparison, it is a full inch and an half taller than the Axim x51v. Sure, the Axim is not a phone, but it is considered a pretty big device by today's standards (at least when compared to the Moto Q and Excalibur that Steve Jobs was making fun of).
Sorry, I was wrong. The phone is not that big, I was quoting the measurements that I read from Engadget or Macrumors, I don't remember which, or I might have messed up entirely. Just to set the record straight, the iPhone is actually a little smaller than the Axim x51v.

But the screen resolution still disappoints.
 
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Old 01-09-2007, 10:27 PM
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having used xp, and vista, there is nothing like osx. they don't even begin to compare. xp users don't know what they are missing. it is a fundamentally better computer experience all around.

Funny. I've used them all extensively. I've yet to get excited by OSX. I guess I must be too complex to realise what it is that I should missing :-)
 
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Old 01-09-2007, 10:29 PM
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no competition in the enterprise market
That's a <lol>... by accepting the "enterprise market" as the holy mobile grail, ms completely ditched the guy with the hand attached to the device... while "security" may sell a lot of units to big business, imho, it's a no brainer as to what the end users will spend their own money on when it comes down to ppc-pe vs smartphone vs iphone.

The fact that it's running osx boggles the mind with the possibilities.
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Old 01-09-2007, 10:42 PM
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I love the graphics and icons... they are way cool. Cingular may even end up with a lot of new subscribers as a result of this device, and only $499 for the 4GB model ($599 for the 8GB)? You really can't beat that. If the screen is a 16x9 aspect ratio, then a 3.5" screen at 160ppi would be about 275x488... pretty good resolution. If a 4x3 aspect ratio, the same screen would be 336x448. They're supposed to start shipping in June of this year.

I didn't like the fact that it doesn't have 3G. Instead, it's a quad-band GSM + EDGE.

A few things I liked:

"We've also got some stuff you can't see -- 3 advanced sensors. It's got a proximity sensor, bring the iPhone to your ear and your display shuts off and toushccreen shuts down. Ambient light sensor -- adjusts brightness, saves power. Third thing is an accellerometer, it can tell whether you're in landscape and portrait."

Looking at the New York Times online was awesome, especially the zoom in capability.

'"Now, to conclude with the internet device section, I want to show you google Maps on iPhone -- it comes up and I'm going to go to Moscone West. And here we are, boom, I'm going to want a cup of coffee afterwards, so I'm going to search for StarBucks." Shows Gmaps POI info including number and address, which drops right into the dialer. He's calling StarBucks.'

Another hands-on demo. "Let's see what happens when a phone call comes while listening to music -- music fades out and the call comes through." Phil wants photos to use as his screen saver, one of the phones from Hawaii. Go figure! Steve is emailing the photo -- shrinks, compose window pops up (he's still on the phone with Phil, mind you), and he sends it. He ends the call, and the music pops right back up, no pauses, no fuss. Uproarious applause.
 
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