Yes - when Ed declares something to be dead you're best off not rushing to book the funeral.
Hey now. I'm not wrong… I'm just ahead of the times, sort of like when I was saying in 2000/2001 that Pocket PC would overtake Palm. I was prophesying several years into the future, that's all. :mrgreen: Same here, except it is 18 months, tops. 8)
I think WSHE above got it right. If Access doesn't know that POS is dead they are the only ones left on the planet. POS made sure their OS was dead when they botched Cobalt. People who like Palms already have them and the market is losing even the few upgraders their were. The serious upgraders are seeing the better value in WinMob offerings.
Everyone, including Access and PalmSource (or what is left of them once Access does the "downsizing") knows that Garnet is a lame old kludgey mess that can't get the job done. Plinux is their only hope and the guy from Access who gave the interview surely admitted that. Why wouldn't he? There is no way to say with a straight face that POS will be around much longer.
Sadly, it was not just Palm's OS that killed their business. It was their hardware. No one has released a full-featured POS model at a decent price since the late great Sony TH55. Even the last two models they just released at lame. The TX lacks a microphone and the Z22 has not SD slot. Palm is still thinking that they must leave off crucial features to ensure next season's upgraders.
Sorry, Palm, the upgraders to the TX are buying HP 1950s or Axim x50vs, and the upgraders to the z22 are just keeping their phone numbers in.......their PHONES!
Just like when you declared bluetooth was dead a couple years back :lol:
Well, my whole philosophy with that is, maybe I was wrong, but bluetooth still sucks. I could admit I was wrong, yet bluetooth would still suck.
Ah - but you are wrong on that too. Currently I have 7 BT enabled devices on the go - every one of them from a different company. They all pair easily, are simple to use and work togther well. Your poor assessment of BT seems largely based on using products that have BT implemented badly - and you just can't judge the whole tech on that basis (especially as whatever eventually replaces it will have just the same problem).
The jury isn't out. They heard the evidence from thousands of satisfied users (and you too can go back and read countless examples of such evidence in every one of your 'BT is dead' threads) and returned a verdict of 'alive and thriving' some time ago. Indeed - BT continues to go from strength to strength - sales are up and up, BT 2.0 products are starting to appear (completely backwards compatible), many companies with poor implementaion records have cleaned up their acts (others are being pushed hard by the BT org), comparative reviews of such things as BT headsets now focus on things like sound quality and not BT performance...
I predict that far from dying any tome soon - BT will see off potential successors for a while (yes - even the 'troubled' W-USB) as nothing else has the maturity and product reach.
I'm amazed that technically literate people with PDAs and mobile phones actually get by without BT...! I know I would feel handicapped without it...
Now - saying Palm is the walking dead - there you'll get no argument. I don't like it mind (MS need the competition) but the evidence is overwhelming...!
Ah - but you are wrong on that too. Currently I have 7 BT enabled devices on the go - every one of them from a different company. They all pair easily, are simple to use and work togther well. Your poor assessment of BT seems largely based on using products that have BT implemented badly - and you just can't judge the whole tech on that basis (especially as whatever eventually replaces it will have just the same problem).
You and other geeks. The only consumer success on bluetooth is headsets for phones. Everything else is a small niche market.
I've had/have at least 10 different bluetooth devices in the past 3 years. Just last week I had to reboot my PC because it stopped accepting BT requests. I am having problems with 100% of the BT devices ever owned. Jabra 250, Stowaway keyboard, PDA2K, various iPAQs, Nokia cell phone, etc. The number gets higher with people at work or that I know I've helped get cellphones and headsets set up. They all know now how to re-establish a partnership without calling me on the phone because I've walked them through it enoughtimes when the devices just stop talking to each other. Various carriers, various makes/models of phones and headsets. You are saying that through some extraordinary stroke of bad luck, I just haven't happened upon any trouble free BT devices? :roll:
ed's right. bluetooth will die. eventually. every technology gets replaced sooner or later. (tryin' ta help ya out here ed)
No - not even accepting that. Most technology doesn't die so much as it evolves or merges or learns to co-exist with an upcoming tech. W-USB and BT will almost certainly co-exist (probably both being used for niche purposes in time) well into the future.
ed's right. bluetooth will die. eventually. every technology gets replaced sooner or later. (tryin' ta help ya out here ed)
No - not even accepting that. Most technology doesn't die so much as it evolves or merges or learns to co-exist with an upcoming tech. W-USB and BT will almost certainly co-exist (probably both being used for niche purposes in time) well into the future.
Ah - but you are wrong on that too. Currently I have 7 BT enabled devices on the go - every one of them from a different company. They all pair easily, are simple to use and work togther well. Your poor assessment of BT seems largely based on using products that have BT implemented badly - and you just can't judge the whole tech on that basis (especially as whatever eventually replaces it will have just the same problem).
You and other geeks. The only consumer success on bluetooth is headsets for phones. Everything else is a small niche market.
I've had/have at least 10 different bluetooth devices in the past 3 years. Just last week I had to reboot my PC because it stopped accepting BT requests. I am having problems with 100% of the BT devices ever owned. Jabra 250, Stowaway keyboard, PDA2K, various iPAQs, Nokia cell phone, etc. The number gets higher with people at work or that I know I've helped get cellphones and headsets set up. They all know now how to re-establish a partnership without calling me on the phone because I've walked them through it enoughtimes when the devices just stop talking to each other. Various carriers, various makes/models of phones and headsets. You are saying that through some extraordinary stroke of bad luck, I just haven't happened upon any trouble free BT devices? :roll:
I will say that I genuinely cannot understand how you have had such an experience. I've used several of the products you name with no problems. I really can't remember the last time I had a partnership break on me. It certainly has nothing to do with being a geek - I can barely understand WiFi connections - if BT wasn't easy to use and set up I would have no time for it.
FTR - I know plenty of general non-techy people (we're talking about teachers - people with serious technophobia) with BT headsets, BT units in their cars and BT GPS - none of whom have issues.
Seriously - when I hear you describe your experience and compare it to the countless accounts of people who have had much better experiences (including myself) I can only think that you are unusually unlucky - I'm bewildered by how different you experience is to the experiences I see around me (and indeed the experiences of most of us techo-heads).
I had a BT Stowaway - not one problem EVER with three different Pocket PCs. Several BT enabled Pocket PCs with only one issue - the out of memory one (which isn't to do with the actual BT). Six BT headsets I've been through without one BT issue ever. To paraphrase you: You are saying that through some extraordinary stroke of good luck, I just don't have any problem BT devices?
I did have problems with BT devices - the Loox 600 and iPAQ 3870 were poor, my first BT headset was lousy, my first (TDK I think) PC dongle was rubbish and my brief dalliance with a Nokia phone was a mistake - but note how old all of those are. There was a time when I cursed BT as not ready for the primetime - now I barely think about it as it is all so simple and easy. I just wish WiFi worked as easily and without issues - or several other technologies that continue to frustrate me.
(Heck - I can't even remember where my cradle is as I only ever AS via BT).
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