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Old 02-16-2008, 08:33 AM
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Last year I switched from a HTC Universal to an HTC Hermes and recently switched back, mainly because of the screen. The difference is huge, I just love the VGA screen. Also the Uni is much faster than the Hermes, so VGA doesnt have to have an performance impact.
 
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Old 02-16-2008, 09:05 AM
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Talk about using a device for what it was for. This is a PDA. A personal digital assistant. You want information. Calender that shows the most information, Internet, phone, etc.
The PDA grew from that to include music/video/camera, etc.

If you take a PDA for what it was made for, it NEEDS the VGA for clarity. I don't play games on mine. I don't watch movies on mine. I have an ipod and a laptop to do that. I don't believe in watching a movie on the ipod, but many do. And that has a smaller screen than most pdas. Getting OT there. VGA will help everything as a whole.

If your worried about battery life, make a lager battery. Offset the vga useage,by adding less than an ounce of weight and 2mm? More than enough to compensate the measly 10minutes of battery you lost between qvga and VGA. Live with it.
Worried about speed? I'm sure like anything like computers, a GPU and fast CPU will offset that. And Nvidia and Qualcomm already have that covered. Worried about battery again? See previous paragraph.

Stop complaing about speed and battery, when thats the easiest thing to fix. Stop worrying that it'll make the pda too big. The TILT is on the verge of being too small. I would've bought it if it was a inch bigger. And a inch of battery is like hours of useage.

Heck, wait about a year and that 10x longer lasting litho-ion battery will be out. Then things will shift into high gear.

People who say they can live without VGA, either owned a palm for years or never had someone show them the proper use of what a VGA screen had to offer. In no way should a VGA be considered high-resolution. Sandard tv run 480i. Its just the beginning of things to come.
 
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Old 02-16-2008, 11:08 AM
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I have made a comparison of QVGA (3.5" iPaq 2490) and VGA (3.7" Axim X50v) screens in my blog: http://mobilyazilar.blogspot.com/200...-and-qvga.html

Sorry for giving a link in my first post! I am a reader of Pocket PC Thoughts, but I didn't contribute before.
 
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Old 02-16-2008, 02:14 PM
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Default Re: VGA rocks

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Originally Posted by mmidgley
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You can tell I'm watching the 9502. Its spec initially stated 18bit color but has been reduced to 16bit. That's either for processing efficiency, cost reduction, or both. I wonder how much of an impact this will have. The X800 did show banding and other graphic artifacts (even on their bootloader image--you'd think they'd spend a minute in photoshop to optimize it for 16bit color). Any comments on 16 vs 18bit?

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yepp. Win Mobile in its current incarnation doesn't support more than 16bit colours. You can use screens that support more, but the OS will only address 16bit coulors.

I think that will change when Microsoft will pull the plug on Win CE and switch to the new, Windows7 microkernel that is said to be modular to empower a full blown server as well as a smartphone.
Watch out, the future will be cool. 8)
 
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Old 02-16-2008, 03:38 PM
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I can't believe how many people are fine with, or actually prefer qvga screens. You're talking about performance hit and battery life?!?!?!? I need a device that works. The performance and battery life of mine is more than enough.

For me, it's not an option. I use my pda the most for my month view with text in pocket informant. There is no way that's physically possible with and reasonable amount of information on a qvga screen. End of story for me. Everything else is icing on the cake. Well, it's pretty much murder working with any spreadsheet or document at qvga too so I guess I have to take that back.

This will sound harsh but if you're using qvga you're really missing out on your mobile productivity.

Well, whatever works for you...but if you're saying anything negative about a vga device you're probably missing the reasons why some people require it every day in the same way some people do require a qvga device because text is too small at 480x640 on a 2.6" to 4" screen.
 
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Old 02-16-2008, 03:43 PM
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I don't se a wide NEED for it. I'm quit certain that if you polled the millions and millions of mobile devices users and asked them what VGA is, not many outside of forums such as this would know or care about VGA, or wish the cost of their device be increased to support it.

Dave
just because people dont know better doesnt mean there is no need for VGA! and if u show a pdaphone to millions and millions of people, they will ask "is that a iphone?" just cus the phone got a touchscreen on it!
 
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Old 02-16-2008, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Paragon
I don't se a wide NEED for it. I'm quit certain that if you polled the millions and millions of mobile devices users and asked them what VGA is, not many outside of forums such as this would know or care about VGA, or wish the cost of their device be increased to support it.

Dave
just because people dont know better doesnt mean there is no need for VGA! and if u show a pdaphone to millions and millions of people, they will ask "is that a iphone?" just cus the phone got a touchscreen on it!
Not just that, but Microsoft has crippled the advantage of VGA since forever by insisting on scaling things instead of giving as a real VGA experience. For most native applications there realy is no advantage to VGA other than crisper text.

I better comparisson for this video would have been to compare the amount of data presented on screen with MS Fake VGA vs Real VGA. Those of us who love VGA already know and accept the performance hits of Real VGA, because we have different priorities. Compare Excel in VGA vs QVGA for instance.

I absolutely agree that the delay in Internet Explorer is frustrating. But then again, I remember lunchtime at school, spending 15 minutes loading Space Invaders from a cassette tape on a Comadore PET in 1980 ...
 
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Old 02-16-2008, 04:28 PM
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I have made a comparison of QVGA (3.5" iPaq 2490) and VGA (3.7" Axim X50v) screens in my blog: http://mobilyazilar.blogspot.com/200...-and-qvga.html

This is a great comparison, and confirms what I have been showing people for years. Thanks for sharing!
 
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Old 02-16-2008, 04:50 PM
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that video missing the most important part!
where is the remote desktop client comparsion?
remote desktop in VGA just like you looking at your home monitor!
remote desktop in QVGA is like blocking 75% of the screen monitor!, and u really cant do much with it!
 
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Old 02-16-2008, 04:56 PM
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that video missing the most important part!
where is the remote desktop client comparsion?
remote desktop in VGA just like you looking at your home monitor!
remote desktop in QVGA is like blocking 75% of the screen monitor!, and u really cant do much with it!
mobilyazilar's blog shows this.

I've used GoToMyPC with my E830. I can run it at 1024x768 resolution and do almost everything I need to do easily with only the occasional need to zoom in to full-scale.
 
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