02-04-2005, 08:38 PM
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I *really* think HP is missing the '05 boat by not including WiFi in this device. First, I won't touch one without WiFi, but that's my personal preference. More importantly (and maybe this is planned obsolesence) but I believe this is the year of WiFi/Cell convergence. The battle for cellular future is going to be shaped in a large way by VOIP WiFi this year and any device that can't get this done isn't going to be a real "competitor" in the 2005/2006 PPC marketplace.
No WiFi is just absurd--even if you don't believe the convergence theory.
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02-04-2005, 09:29 PM
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Contributing Editor Emeritus
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The only reason I can think of that HP would leave out WiFi is because they're expecting everyone to just buy an unlimited data plan (which are dropping in price). With an unlimited data plan, they're thinking most people won't notice the lack of WiFi as their PPC will be 'always on' the internet...
Power users (us) are another matter. We want speed when we surf, so whenever we're within range of an AP, we're going to switch.
Most people wouldn't bother. Think of all the Treos you see everyday. Most of these people (like my boss) use this item as a phone with email and advanced PIM functions. They will never watch movies or listen to MP3s and definitely won't bother to switch over to the WiFi radio when they're already getting their email just fine the way it is.
To those people, it's not worth the extra $50 for the WiFi radio.
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02-04-2005, 09:59 PM
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Thoughts Media Review Team
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Originally Posted by Tye
10:1 this thing runs Magneto and the 240x240 resolution won't be as bad as it sounds because of the built-in keyboard...
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Huhhhh.....
How does a built in keyboard compensate for lousey screen resolution. As another poster already said - imagine trying to display a usable map on that resolution. Now 480x480 might have made it interesting.
On the plus side I like the idea of the Dual slot SD/MiniSD and check out the mounting points for the flip cover - the revenge of the Jornada!
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02-05-2005, 01:50 AM
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This looks pretty cool. Hopefully HP will not skimp on anything.. that's what they'll have to do for this to be a true Treo killer. The software has to be perfectly polished.
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02-05-2005, 02:17 AM
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Intellectual
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Originally Posted by Stephen Beesley
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Originally Posted by Tye
10:1 this thing runs Magneto and the 240x240 resolution won't be as bad as it sounds because of the built-in keyboard...
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Huhhhh.....
How does a built in keyboard compensate for lousey screen resolution. As another poster already said - imagine trying to display a usable map on that resolution. Now 480x480 might have made it interesting.
On the plus side I like the idea of the Dual slot SD/MiniSD and check out the mounting points for the flip cover - the revenge of the Jornada! |
Heh, I knew someone would question my statement right after I pressed submit.
What I mean is that because "we" won't need to worry about an SIP, the square resolution isn't as much of a limiting factor. I absolutely agree that 480x480 would be better. I love the VGA screen on my 4705 and can't imagine going back to a low DPI device. However, for the people that I'm guessing HP is targetting, I don't think that will be as big an issue. Plenty of people--even "power users" that post here--are fine with low DPI.
Regarding maps on 240x240, yeah I agree. That would suck. Again though, I don't think their target audience will care as much. |
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02-05-2005, 02:19 AM
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Intellectual
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Originally Posted by Stephen Beesley
but I still love my Newtons!
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02-05-2005, 02:27 AM
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but I still love my Newtons!
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Same here. I eat fig newtons almost every night! :worried: |
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02-05-2005, 04:15 AM
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I was a loyal iPaq owner since 2001, starting with a 3670 and ending with a 4155. I recently switched to a Siemens SX66 when my carrier, Cingular, started carrying it and now as I look at hp I do not think they will win me back. The SX66 has just about everything I need, and then some. WiFi is extremely important to me. Not just for surfing, but also because I often transfer files over my lan to and from my PPC and also ActiveSync with my PPC, both which are basically impossible without WiFi (I know I could FTP, VPN, etc., but WiFi is braindead simple). Hp, as of late, is just not cutting it. What amazes me the most is the 4155 is perhaps the single greatest PDA hp ever produced, and everything since pales is comparison to it. Everything now is bulky, odd, slow, or hampered is some way or another. I hope they get back on track. Customer loyalty goes a long way in the tech world, and they have lost mine due to lack of performance.
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02-05-2005, 05:27 AM
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Intellectual
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Same here. I eat fig newtons almost every night! :worried:
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02-05-2005, 09:25 AM
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Amazing huh. Displaying maps at 320 x 240 is ok (never heard anyone complain), but 240x240 is just too low a resolution, even if they technically have the same resolution.
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