MDA IV Pictures From 3GSM In Cannes

[galt]

More pics to drool over: http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/3586.html

I think the look is starting to grow on me, I think they are going for "sleek" even though it's a sizeable device:

[galt]

More pics to drool over: http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/3586.html

I think the look is starting to grow on me, I think they are going for "sleek" even though it's a sizeable device:

[gibson042]

Originally Posted by Surur

I am not buying a wm2003se device at the end of 2005. No, definitely not. No matter how good the package. PE devices dont usually get any OS updates. They must be mad or dreaming if they think they can get away that.

Surur

I wish I had your strength of will. I'll hate it, I'll gripe and moan about it, I'll scream for updates, but at the end of the day I'll buy one even if it is crippled by an outdated and inefficient OS.

[pauljacks UK]

It would be useful to see it alongside a 2210. where are the memory card slots?

[humayunl]

I love this thing... and cant wait to get my hands on one BUT having said that, I have some concerns:

1. The 'default' closed mode or position for this device seems to be the 'LCD on the inside' position. I am saying this based on how the device looks closed when the LCD is facing Inwards VS Outwards. Don't you think it looks more 'proper' (for lack of a better word) when the top is closed with the LCD inwards? With the LCD facing the outside, (which is the way a long time PPCPE user like myself is used to having his PDA, and which is the way PDAs should always be...) it doesnt look as pretty as I am sure they can make it look.

a PDA Phone has many (make that ALL) uses for which you would always want the screen readilyavailable (alarms snoozing, looking at the time, Caller ID, Today screen etc. etc. etc.) so basically if the default mode is with the screen looking at YOU then shouldnt it look more 'proper' in that position rather than the other one?

2. When the device has its top closed with the LCD facing the inside, there is no secondary display or anything on the other side. What if I get a phonecall, or i wanna see the time etc.? All such "flip top" devices these days have a secondary display and I think this one would benefit from one. Mind you I would never use this secondary display because for me the LCD would always be on the outside. (which is why i am complaining about its looks in that position) TOO many hinges and stuff...

3. One of the features i was really looking forward to in my device were the many application specific buttons on the device.. like on the Blue Angel. Alas this device doesnt have those... there's only that one DPad.. thats even less buttons than my current XDA II.

Is it just me with these concerns? because so far no one has complained about the looks and the hinges.... ? i mean i loev the spces and the device in general and i would buy it as it is.. but with these additional issues resolved it would be almost perfect!

[beq]

^ I agree that would be good... But I guess as you say they're aiming for the clamshell-phone usage where the normal carrying mode would be with the screen closed -- as that way you won't have to worry about buying a PDA case (and/or screen inlay cover) just to protect the screen while carrying it in your pocket/pack?

[surur]

Originally Posted by humayunl

a PDA Phone has many (make that ALL) uses for which you would always want the screen readilyavailable (alarms snoozing, looking at the time, Caller ID, Today screen etc. etc. etc.) so basically if the default mode is with the screen looking at YOU then shouldn't it look more 'proper' in that position rather than the other one?

2. When the device has its top closed with the LCD facing the inside, there is no secondary display or anything on the other side. What if I get a phonecall, or i wanna see the time etc.? All such "flip top" devices these days have a secondary display and I think this one would benefit from one. Mind you I would never use this secondary display because for me the LCD would always be on the outside. (which is why i am complaining about its looks in that position) TOO many hinges and stuff...

3. One of the features i was really looking forward to in my device were the many application specific buttons on the device.. like on the Blue Angel. Alas this device doesn't have those... there's only that one DPad.. thats even less buttons than my current XDA II.

The clamshell design with no external screen means you will not need a case. If you think about it, you do not have an external display on your xda 2 or blue-angel either. This device is therefore functionally similar to the other successful HTC devices, but will be sleeker due to not having an external display. I understand how you feel though, and would have preferred an external display included. I have noticed however that I dont really use the external display on my phones much though.

The solution is this bluetooth headset:

http://www.jabra.com/JabraCMS/EM/EN/...JabraBT800.htm
The Jabra bt800. Its a headset with a display for caller ID, variable ring tones and vibrate. You can really run your phone from there. I just hope the bluetooth stack on this device is up to using the full potential of this headset.

Originally Posted by gibson42

I wish I had your strength of will. I'll hate it, I'll gripe and moan about it, I'll scream for updates, but at the end of the day I'll buy one even if it is crippled by an outdated and inefficient OS.

Well I already have a VGA device (The Loox 720) and a very nice 3G phone (the SE V800) so the only thing I would gain would be device integration, and I understand wm2005 adds A LOT of phone specific features to enable one handed operation. It would be a real mistake and insult not to include the OS. It will make Magneto a standing joke like Palm OS 6.

Surur

[jlp]

Originally Posted by gibson042

Well, the HTC Blue Angel, this model's predecessor, had a very well backlit keyboard to address visibility issues. There has been no indication that this one will lack the same feature, and indeed leaving it out would be a step backwards.

Backlight or not, if the keys a black it's harder to see them; the Blue Angel has light colored keys and the light shines thru the whole key (if I get it right). Moreover since the letter shapes (thru which the light shines) are small it's harder to see as well.

[jlp]

Another problem I see is that you'd have to open the device to answer a call as the relevant (red and green) buttons are inside. Or they'd have to add those as duplicates on the outside, possibly with an external screen; the latter is not necessarily needed, but that would help.

However I don't know if WM03/05 can support dual displays like that.

But since no one took pix of the closed device it's imposible to tell !!

[jlp]

The pix at msmobiles like linked above (top of page 3) answer both my comments on the external screen (there is NONE) and the outside call keys; there are two and they are (seemingly) located on the back of the display hinge.

[surur]

Originally Posted by jlp

However I don't know if WM03/05 can support dual displays like that.

And further the Mpx (wm2003se) has a dual display.

Surur