11-04-2002, 05:42 PM
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Intellectual
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 144
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Powerful, Ugly, and Cheap vs. Stylish and expensive
Over and Over again in this industry, the Stylish and expensive have lost again and again.
Go take a trip to your neighborhood PC graveyard and look at a IBM PS/2. Its slick, first machine with Memory Sims, 32bit bus years before Compaq and Dell had it. IBM may have lost 50% of its market share on that gamble.
I spend $600 last Christmas for a 3850. If there was a $300 version that had more features (like built-in CF), Dude, I'd be getting a Dell :way to go: (  ops: sorry had to do it...) |
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11-04-2002, 05:57 PM
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Thinker
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 418
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They say it may go to $150
I have not owned a Dell PC, but the number one attraction seems to be that with not having to pay a retailer another profit on top of the money Dell has to make and the manufacturer has to make, they can sell for less.
Now, if they sell at Costco how do they keep the price at $200? My guess is that they will sell just enough of them through retail to ensure that 80% of the US consumers will be able to see and handle them at Costco or WalMart kiosks. But the real sales will come from the Internet. Sales taxes in some places (New York?) can reach 10%. That is enough for someone to prefer to buy from Dell online. Dell will offer this and perhaps just enough by way of online perks to keep the sales there.
I personally, think that Dell is the perfect way to buy PDAs, cameras, about anything that cost more than $50, doesn't need to be tried on, and is easy to ship. But we'll see. If it is as rumored they will sell a million of them as fast as they can make them.
Does anyone else think this looks like a Palm III?
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11-04-2002, 06:36 PM
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Sage
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 748
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Re: They say it may go to $150
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Originally Posted by Timothy Rapson
Now, if they sell at Costco how do they keep the price at $200? My guess is that they will sell just enough of them through retail to ensure that 80% of the US consumers will be able to see and handle them at Costco or WalMart kiosks.
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Here's how Dell does it (and I think it's a really good idea). They pay Malls and now Costco to put a Kiosk in there store, NOT to sell there product. The Kiosk has several PC models set up (and hopefully Axim's very soon) so that the customers can handle the product. If they like it, the Dell guy who mans the Kiosk walks them through making an eQuote which they can save and then purchase the product from home anytime they want. If they REALLY like it, the Dell guy has them buy it off the web site from the Kiosk.
Simple, still Dell's direct marketing plan and at the same time a LOT cheaper than a Gateway Country store 
btw, I've never heard of a Walmart Kiosk, I can't imagine Walmart would let Dell do that... |
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11-04-2002, 06:49 PM
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Neophyte
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 7
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Ugly, OK...brick, no way.
Ugly or not this thing will sell big time, as long as it's not too much larger than an ipaq. Price will go a long way towards gaining acceptance.
Where I work, we're just about to choose a platform for some pda applications - we need about a dozen of the things to start and the lean has been towards Palm, largely due to application availability, but also due to price.
The managers are under the impression that they're going to have to spend $600 for a wireless PocketPC, and less than $300 for a Palm....I think I've managed to slow things down a bit with hints about a $300 Dell (along with demos of my SilverSlider5 iPaq  ).
'Course Dell might just end up forcing Comlett-Paqard and the rest to slash prices and gain minimal market share along the way if it's TOO ugly or too big.....and I'm OK with that too! |
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11-04-2002, 06:56 PM
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Thinker
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 365
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Dell's Axim5
Didn't it say designed to fit the pocketbook? I missed seeing the price in the Demo. Of course, they could be giving them away and I wouldn't want one. It's downright ugly. :twisted:
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11-04-2002, 06:57 PM
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Thinker
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 333
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Re: They say it may go to $150
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btw, I've never heard of a Walmart Kiosk, I can't imagine Walmart would let Dell do that...
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Walmart lets Verizon Wireless do it. Walmart will do anything if it attracts customers, or the price is right. They just have to make more from that 20 sq. feet of floor space than they do selling paper towels (or whatever.) |
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11-04-2002, 07:34 PM
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Neophyte
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 6
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And no to mention it is pathetically ugly looking....
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I think shiny chrome is overrated. I'm looking for a solid device that won't easily get scratched. As long as it's not too heavy and bulky.... :turn-l: |
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11-04-2002, 07:37 PM
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Ponderer
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 61
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Wait... when did the iPaq become good looking?! That chrome stuff on my iPaq is just shiny and fingerprints and scratches so easily. I think the Dell is one of the better looking devices, right next to the HP 56x.
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11-04-2002, 07:42 PM
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Pupil
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 33
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Re: Butt ugly
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Originally Posted by egads
I was really hoping for a better looking device. Guess I'll go for the Viewsonic, just wish it had a CF slot. Man, with all of the different PPC's showing up these days you would think one of them would fit what I wanted! The Toshiba Pocket PC e740 is what I really want but I can't justify the $$$ Anyways, I hope Dell has them in some retail stores to play with. I'm in no hurry to buy a new PPC, but who knows, after playing with one I may not mind how it looks...
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heh, you don't want one of those. =) I still can't find a fedex station to mail the thing back for repairs.... =( They do install euu3 on it though
Where are there any actual specs for this thing??? So far I know nothing! Other than the fact that it looks like it should be on Batman's utility belt.
of course... it seems Dell sees their customers as this -"Gosh Darn it sure looks pretty, I'll take it! Woooweee! Fire up the generator Martha, we got arselves a compooter!" -judging from their ads.
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11-04-2002, 08:01 PM
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Pontificator
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,352
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Looks are overrated esp considering that this is a PDA for god sake. I'm not going to be shoving it into everyone's face going HEY LOOK AT HOW SEXY THIS THING IS!! Example is the Loox. The thing has looks to die for but after some of the nagging probs I’ve head about it I wouldn’t take one even if you paid me. I personally couldn't care less if this thing had the shell of a Palm Pilot Pro as long as the guts of this thing are cutting edge.
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