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Old 07-14-2003, 05:53 PM
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Default Pocket PC 2003: Can someone run Pocket Hack Master?

Saw the post below about performance being observed as poor on the Dell Axim with Windows Mobile 2003. This is contrary to all the performance tests I've run on other 2003 based devices, using major enterprise database apps as benchmarks. I've seen 50% to 70% performance boost on anything that hammers the file system or memory management.

Can someone run Pocket Hack Master on the Dell with 2003 and report the results here? I haven't upgraded yet. I've posted the interesting numbers from other Dell models:

Dell Axim X5 with Pocket PC 2002, PXA250 and A00 ROM:
* L/M/N settings (27/2x/2.00x)
* SDRAM frequency (99.50MHz)
* Run to turbo mode frequency multiplier (2.00)
* Stated "turbo" and "run" clock speeds (398.00MHz/199.00MHz)
* Settings from the SDRAM page (refresh=8/clock divider=1x/cycles=24)

Dell Axim X5 with Pocket PC 2002, PXA255 and A03 ROM:
* L/M/N settings (27/4x/1.00x)
* SDRAM frequency (99.50MHz)
* Run to turbo mode frequency multiplier (1.00)
* Stated "turbo" and "run" clock speeds (398.00MHz/398.00MHz)
* Settings from the SDRAM page (refresh=8/clock divider=1x/cycles=24)


If you haven't purchased it, an unregistered version is available here: http://www.pockethackmaster.com

Let's compare those to the Pocket PC 2003 settings and see what's different. For those of you suffering from performance problems, this utility might offer a solution too. Thanks,

-Boyo
 
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Old 07-16-2003, 06:53 PM
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Bump - could someone who has installed Pocket PC 2003 on their Dell please run Pocket Hack Master and post the results here? That way we can clear up this mess.

-Boyo
 
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Old 07-17-2003, 02:36 AM
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There are already benchmarks up on Aximsite.
 
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Old 07-17-2003, 07:48 PM
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PHM isn't a benchmark. Benchmarks don't tell you WHY it's slower. Or how to fix it.

For example, when HP introduced the end-user update 3 (EUU3) patch for the iPAQ 3900 series, they accidentally reduced the clock speed from 400MHz to 300MHz.

If it's something like this Pocket Hack Master tells you, plus can override the default settings to bring performance back up. A temporary fix until Dell can provide the official one.

-Boyo
 
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Old 07-18-2003, 05:22 AM
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Then I'm guessing those of us with Axims aren't the hard core overclocking type who would pay for PHM
 
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Old 07-18-2003, 07:34 AM
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Several months ago I tried three overclock utilities (including PocketHackMaster) with my Axim PXA 250 400MHz. Launching Internet Explorer with AvantGo content is the slowest thing I do with my Axim by far (takes almost ten seconds before the spinning dial disappears), so I used that as a test to see what kind of speed increase I'd get. Using all three overclocking utilities, the "improvement" was completely unnoticeable. I was careful to soft reset each time to make sure the test was fair, and using a stopwatch there was not even half a second of improvement in that ten-second IE launch. :roll:

Perhaps overclocking improves some aspect of the device's speed, but it was useless as far as making anything I cared about go any faster. Too bad, I was really hoping for better results. :evil:
 
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Old 07-18-2003, 06:12 PM
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I'm not talking about overclocking either. I'm talking about whether your processor and memory is being clocked at the correct rate.

As I'd mentioned with the HP iPAQ 3900 they misconfigured it to run at 300MHz instead of 400MHz. This isn't the only device I've seen where a mistake like this has been made.

I believe I also mentioned the unregistered version of PHM, which is free to download.

$0 and 10 minutes if your time...pretty hard core.

-Boyo
 
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Old 07-18-2003, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by boyo
Oh well, forget I offered to help then. Nobody really seems interested into figuring out why there's a problem. Bunch of good long threads complaining about it, but nobody willing to spend $0 and 10 minutes of time to figure out how to fix it.

-Boyo
Glad to see that you know what I've been doing. :roll:

Look around at the other forums, and you'll find that not only did Dell officially acknowledge the problem and is working on a fix, but I posted on a few forums a method for getting these troublesome Axims to work acceptably.
 
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Old 07-18-2003, 06:22 PM
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Sorry sracer, I edited my snooty reply to try and clarify. I'm really interested in finding out what the problem is. Where did you post that info? I searched under your user name and saw only one other related post, talking about your tech support fun - thanks.

-Boyo
 
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Old 07-19-2003, 05:19 AM
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As far as I'm concerned it's not my job to figure out what the problem is. That's Dell's job, and they are doing it. When they are done, I will consider getting the upgrade. I don't have it now so I couldn't help you if I wanted to. But when I work for a computer company and get paid to figure out the cause of their software problems, then I'll worry about it; until then I'll pay them to worry about it for me.
 
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