[tnelson2000]

I can't seem to find Windows Messenger for the new WM5 upgrade? Does anyone know if there is a product available? Hp seems to have crippled the port in order to make thier delivery date? Right now these are the things left out: backup, M$ Messenger, and HID keyboard/mouse service in bluetooth??

Wow, this really is a 'down-grade!?' Why didn't HP disclose this? Or did they?
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Thanks to the help below I found M$ Messenger!
I still believe HP left the HID service out of the Bluetooth Stack. This is probably because they want to make sure that we cannot buy generic keyboards and mice. Instead we will need to buy HP devices.

I also thought that Mobile MSN was a $ubscription service. It appears that I can log in and use it without paying M$. Is this correct?

[tnelson2000]

I can't seem to find Windows Messenger for the new WM5 upgrade? Does anyone know if there is a product available? Hp seems to have crippled the port in order to make thier delivery date? Right now these are the things left out: backup, M$ Messenger, and HID keyboard/mouse service in bluetooth??

Wow, this really is a 'down-grade!?' Why didn't HP disclose this? Or did they?
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Thanks to the help below I found M$ Messenger!
I still believe HP left the HID service out of the Bluetooth Stack. This is probably because they want to make sure that we cannot buy generic keyboards and mice. Instead we will need to buy HP devices.

I also thought that Mobile MSN was a $ubscription service. It appears that I can log in and use it without paying M$. Is this correct?

[Dave Beauvais]

No backup, I can't speak for the Bluetooth HID support since I don't have a Bluetooth mouse or keyboard, but MSN Messenger is definitely still there. See this article by Arne Hess which explains where it is and how to get a shortcut to it back in the Programs folder or Start menu.

As an aside, Messenger is fairly crippled in this version. There are many things you can no longer do in the client such as see a list of who has you in their contact list, set privacy options, etc. It's a little irritating that several of the "improvements" in WM5 take the form of dumbed-down applications. :roll:

[Edgar_]

http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/fi...1129_6089.html

Has a Ipaq Bluetooth Keyboard driver for WM5 - perhaps this is it?
As to messaging it seems a number of people are floating to the third party products - which gives them ICQ, MSN and AOL in one.

-Edgar