The problem with the 4350 Piel Frama case is the thing is 30 mm thick. That's over an inch and not what I'm looking for. My Vaja 1910 case is only 7/8" thick and I can't see myself going much thicker. The PF case looks incredible though. I don't know about it being a poor man's Vaja. It's $74 USD and the quality looks amazing.