[Janak Parekh]

Originally Posted by doogald

As for QT being the video display engine for iTunes, is there really no way to write iTunes to use *any* application that plays video content in the application using a plug-in architecture?

I agree with the rest of your points, but this makes no sense. QuickTime is Apple's own multiplatform media playback framework. It is particularly designed to play the content Apple sells. Why would they use DirectX on Windows and QT on the Mac? That just makes porting harder.

Originally Posted by Stinger

Uninstalling QuickTime probably just uninstalls the player app. I'm sure the libraries are kept. However, this is exactly what I want. The player app sits in my system tray, hogging resources. You can change the settings so that it doesn't automatically start in the system tray but QuickTime resets this option every time you install an update. It's incredibly annoying.

I turn off the option to show QT in the tray myself, but I don't think it's actually hogging any significant amount of resources. I just prefer a clean tray, and the QT icon there is stupid.

--janak

[Janak Parekh]

Originally Posted by doogald

As for QT being the video display engine for iTunes, is there really no way to write iTunes to use *any* application that plays video content in the application using a plug-in architecture?

I agree with the rest of your points, but this makes no sense. QuickTime is Apple's own multiplatform media playback framework. It is particularly designed to play the content Apple sells. Why would they use DirectX on Windows and QT on the Mac? That just makes porting harder.

Originally Posted by Stinger

Uninstalling QuickTime probably just uninstalls the player app. I'm sure the libraries are kept. However, this is exactly what I want. The player app sits in my system tray, hogging resources. You can change the settings so that it doesn't automatically start in the system tray but QuickTime resets this option every time you install an update. It's incredibly annoying.

I turn off the option to show QT in the tray myself, but I don't think it's actually hogging any significant amount of resources. I just prefer a clean tray, and the QT icon there is stupid.

--janak

[Jason Dunn]

Originally Posted by Lee Yuan Sheng

*ahem*Quicktime Alternative*ahem*

I'll have to do a test, but I'm not sure if it installs the files that ProShow Gold needs - remember this wasn't for playback purposes (I'd use VLC if that were the case), it was for MOV output.

[Jason Dunn]

Originally Posted by doogald

...this prevents a user who wants QT without iTunes from getting it without installing iTunes and then removing the app (leaving who knows what little pieces behind) for no benefit to a user who has no use for iTunes.

No argument from me here - as is evidenced by my post, this forced-bundling issue is idoitic and frustrating. I was simply referring to potential anti-trust litigation due to the distribution of Safari via iTunes updates - as long as you can un-check a box, I don't think there's anything legally dubious about it. But that's very different from this issue of not being able to get Quicktime without iTunes.

[Macguy59]

Originally Posted by Jason Dunn

But that's very different from this issue of not being able to get Quicktime without iTunes.

Except that I just provided a link to do just that

[Jason Dunn]

Originally Posted by Macguy59

Except that I just provided a link to do just that

Did you read my article before posting? If you had, you'd see that I have a link to Filehippo in my original post, so getting the Quicktime installer from an alternative source is clearly not the issue. No longer being able to get the file from Apple, clearly the best and safest route, is the issue. Most people that need a program made by a company are going to go to that company to get it, not a third party.

[BevHoward]

top center of the page at http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/

radio buttons for QT download with/without itunes

Beverly Howard

[Sven Johannsen]

Originally Posted by BevHoward

top center of the page at Apple - QuickTime - Download

radio buttons for QT download with/without itunes

Beverly Howard

I'll swear that wasn't there when this thread was started. Went to Apple and searched around for less than a minute to find your link. Couple of days ago spent 20 minutes, and never got a link to that page, or any that would offer a current version of QT without iTunes. I'm sure others did too.

[Jason Dunn]

Originally Posted by BevHoward

top center of the page at http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/ radio buttons for QT download with/without itunes

Hah! Apple must have just changed that - it was definitely, 100% NOT there the day before I posted, the day I posted, and several days after when everyone was trying to point me to the direct download.

Maybe Apple does listen. Go figure.