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Old 06-08-2009, 09:40 PM
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Default Need Virtualization Recommendation

Hey all,
I just recently purchased a new HP laptop running Vista 64 Home Premium.

The problem is that I need to install my companies VPN software but I discovered that it doesn't support 64 Vista.

IT Support recommended that I try a 32 bit Virtual Machine to install the software into. Can anyone recommend a solution for this. I'm not looking to spend a ton of money, but I will pay for the solution if I need to.

thank
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Old 06-08-2009, 10:10 PM
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Boy, for something as one-use as this, I think that I'd try Sun's Virtual Box first, to see if that works well. I have a Mac, and I really like it on Mac OS compared with Parallels (and I am so wishing I didn't upgrade Parallels to 4.0), but I think that would be a great start anyway. Otherwise, I have always liked VMWare on Windows boxes myself (though I've been pure Mac for two plus years, so perhaps that has changed.)
 
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Old 06-09-2009, 01:53 AM
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Try Microsoft Virtual PC:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/

It's free.
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Old 06-09-2009, 12:29 PM
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Thanks for both of your quick replies and suggestions.

@Jason, MS is the first place I looked, but I was only able to find a beta for Windows 7. I'm currently running Vista 64. Do you think I should still give it a try?

Also, do I need to purchase a full license of the OS that I want in the VM, or will it come with it.
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Old 06-09-2009, 02:32 PM
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You do need a license for the OS running in the VM. And, for the record, VirtualBox is also free.
 
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Old 06-09-2009, 03:24 PM
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... though I could also suggest that you try the 32 bit RC Windows 7 download in a VM, as you can get it without paying and it will run until next year. By then perhaps your VPN software will work in 64 bit Vista and you won't need the VPN?
 
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Old 06-09-2009, 06:07 PM
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MS is the first place I looked, but I was only able to find a beta for Windows 7. I'm currently running Vista 64. Do you think I should still give it a try?
That's really weird that their Virtual PC page assumes that everyone is running Windows 7. Bizarre. I'd say to give it a try - Vista and Windows 7 are very close in terms of code, so it should work.

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Also, do I need to purchase a full license of the OS that I want in the VM, or will it come with it.
You need to have a license to run it - it's not a way of getting a free operating system. As someone else said, try the 32-bit version of Windows 7 - maybe your VPN software will work with that?

Or maybe it's worth it to buy a copy of Vista 32-bit and wipe out your 64-bit install. You'd lose access to some RAM (I presume your laptop has 4 GB?) but at least it would all work properly.

It really sucks how developers are dragging their asses getting 64-bit support out the door. Drives me nuts!
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Old 06-13-2009, 03:58 AM
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I just discovered an old copy of Windows 2000. Perhaps I'll install that then put an XP Pro upgrade on top of that. Can I upgrade an OS inside of a virtualization?
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Old 06-13-2009, 04:01 PM
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I just discovered an old copy of Windows 2000. Perhaps I'll install that then put an XP Pro upgrade on top of that. Can I upgrade an OS inside of a virtualization?
Technically, yes. IIRC, Microsoft was playing games about licensing virtualized installs when Vista was first released, but I think removed that (if I recall correctly, only Ultimate was licensed to run in a VM when Vista was first released). XP never had any such restrictions. Technically, so far as the install of Windows is concerned, it will have no idea that it is running inside a virtual machine, and so long as you have activations available for the XP license, you will be all set that way. Legally, if that license of Win2000 is not legally available to install, you should not be installing it, but I'd be pretty secure in the fact that Microsoft will not be auditing you for valid licensing. (I'm pretty certain that Windows licensing works in such a manner that if you purchase a computer with a license of Windows, that OEM license in restricted to that piece of hardware - it cannot be transferred to another computer, unlike a copy of Windows purchased at retail, which may be transferred. Again, I wouldn't worry too much about it myself. And, of course, you cannot legally run the same copy of Win2000 in two different instances.)
 
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Old 06-13-2009, 05:53 PM
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Thanks for the information. I tried to install Win2K and it kept failing on copying the Win2k.sys file. I finally bought the bullet and purchased a copy of Vista 32 home basic from NewEgg. Although based on what you said above I hope it will allow me to install it in VM when it arrives.

MS need not worry about me, I'm not trying to short circuit any licensing restrictions.

I did try an XP Home license just to make sure my VirtualBox install was okay and it installed just fine. Once that worked I deleted the VM since the license is on another machine.

On another note, the whole process seem relatively easy. It got me thinking about other OS's. Maybe I'll venture back to try a linux distro again. Maybe.
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