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Old 12-02-2008, 05:00 PM
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Default Streaming vs. Downloading

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/12/0...etflix-problem/

"For weeks now, Roku Netflix Player owners have noticed an almost universal drop in quality dots (which range from 1 to 4 in order to show quality levels), with many finding the new feeds "unwatchable." CNET recently had a talk with Tim Twerdahl, vice president of consumer products at Roku, about the issue, and according to Tim, all he knows is that "Roku didn't make any changes." Furthermore, we've seen comments in our own posts noting that other Netflix-enabled boxes are also seeing the quality drop. The worst part is that there's still no definitive solution in sight, so we suppose our only advice is to kick back and watch Netflix and Roku bicker over who's really to blame"

I don't have a Roku box, but apparently users are having issues with Netflix streaming quality, to the point that the video becomes unwatchable. This got me thinking about the fundamental differences between streaming and download services particularly as it relates to the (relatively) new category of IP set-top boxes.

Streaming services like Netflix automatically adjust the quality of the video based on the media player: bandwidth, resolution, etc. The stream is not stored, but played and then discarded. Time to playback is typically short but quality may be limited.  If the connection is unreliable or unavailable, a streaming solution effectively no longer works.

Conversely, download services deliver an existing video file but may require the entire file to be downloaded before beginning playback. Since the file is stored locally, quality is consistent and it can easily be replayed. In a system with progressive download, used by Vudu and the new Blockbuster set-top box, playback is started before the video is completely downloaded. However, depending on connection speed and quality, playback may be delayed while waiting for the video download to finish. 

Personally, I've had a great experience with progressive downloads, like Vudu or Amazon Video on Demand to Tivo. My connection is fast enough that SD and HD movies on Vudu are available for immediate viewing, and if I choose to wait I can have the extremely high-quality HDX video. I can even get Amazon video to the Tivo in our bedroom, which struggles to hang on to a wireless connection.

I've also streamed a few Netflix movies to computer. It works quite well on those computers wired into my network. But I have noticed serious video artifacts when streaming to my wireless-G-connected kitchen computer. Netflix streaming is a great secondary VOD source, but I can't see it as my primary movie source, at least not for the next couple of years.

Do you have a Roku box? Are you experiencing these quality issues?

 
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Old 12-03-2008, 12:37 AM
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XBOX 360 also does progressive downloads for the Video Marketplace content. SD content is viewable in a few minutes on most broadband connections and HD content in about a half hour or less on a 3MBps connection.
There is probably room for both technologies but moving forward streaming is probably going to be more popular. Instant gratification generally trumps quality. ;-)
 
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Old 12-03-2008, 02:07 AM
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I'm working on a review of the Roku box right now. I am connected via wireless and am getting mostly 4 dots. They only time I had quality problems with 1's was the few days after the Xbox update and I figured that was from Netflix getting hit hard with new users. Even then, stopping the stream and then restarting usually resulted in a better quality stream.
 
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