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Old 01-23-2009, 07:13 PM
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Default My First Blu-ray Experience? It Sucked

That's a blown-out DLP bulb from my Toshiba TV. What does that have to do with Blu-ray? Keep reading. Back in November, I finally got around to re-doing my home theatre rig. I was replacing the DVD player, the amp, and wiring everything through the amp via HDMI (a first for me). After I got it all connected, my wife and I sat down to enjoy our first Blu-ray movie: Hellboy II [Affiliate]. Being the comic/superhero geek that I am, I was really looking forward to Hellboy II but never managed to see it in the theatres. So I put in the disc, and start the movie. I was puzzled to see a text overlay in the upper left corner that says "BONUS VIEW" right from the first frame of the movie. I expected it to go away eventually, but it doesn't.

On the Samsung remote control I pressed the Bonus View button expecting to toggle this text off the screen. It didn't do anything. Puzzled, I started searching through the Hellboy II disc menu, thinking maybe there was some option for Bonus View that's somehow turned on by default. I couldn't find anything, so we stopped the movie and watched a regular DVD instead. Not a great first impression there Mr. Blu-ray!

I thought that perhaps this was a bug related to the firmware on the Samsung Blu-ray player (I've heard so much about buggy Blu-ray firmware), so I went to the Samsung Web site and put the latest firmware onto a blank CD. I put it in the DVD player, and a few seconds after it loaded up the update started - and I heard a loud "pop" come from my TV! The display vanished. I've never had a DLP bulb blow up on me before, so I didn't recognize it at first. After unplugging the TV and counting the number of times the front light blinks, I realized it was a blown DLP bulb. This is a bit surprising, because I didn't think I'd watched the TV enough to warrant a blown bulb, but these things happen with DLP TVs. The timing of it blowing exactly as the Blu-ray firmware was updating is more than a little strange, but I can't think of any way in which the Blu-ray player would stress the display bulb on the TV.

$225 and two weeks later, I finally had my TV back up and running. The Blu-ray firmware update completed, and I eagerly put in Hellboy II...only to see the Bonus View text still there. The button on the remote still won't turn if off. Disgusted, I gave up. A few days later we watched Speed Racer on Blu-ray, with no such Bonus View problems - and it looked great. Three night ago, I put in the movie Wanted, and my arch-nemesis Bonus View popped up again! Pressing the button would turn on the Bonus View, unlike Hellboy II, but exiting from the Bonus View content wouldn't get rid of the damn message. This time I decided to consult The Oracle, and wouldn't you know it, there are others complaining about the same problem as me. I found the solution, which entails going into the DVD system menu, then going Setup > Display Setup > Screen Message > Off. I checked it with the disc for Wanted, and no more Bonus View text overlay.

Why would Samsung have the Bonus View text overlay appear by default and not go away when the button is pressed? I have no idea. I can't think of a single reason why someone would want to see the words Bonus View plaster across their screen when watching a movie - I chalk it up to the generally sloppy job everyone has done with Blu-ray players. Adding insult to injury, over the past two months I've had four regular DVDs that either wouldn't play at all in the Samsung BD-P1500 (Dexter Season 2), or play partially then lock up partway through (We Were Soldiers, The Sum of All Fears). The Samsung BD-1500 is more troublesome and frustrating than any previous DVD player I've owned. My first couple of months with a Blu-ray player hasn't been very impressive, and as far as Blu-ray players go, I certainly can't recommend the BD-P1500 in any way.

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Old 01-23-2009, 11:03 PM
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Sucks that you've had problems already. On the opposite end of the scale I've had no issues with my Sony BDP-S350 including text overlays that won't go away. Haven't come across any standard DVD's that choke either.
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Old 01-23-2009, 11:25 PM
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I've got pretty much the same response as Macguy, except with a PS3. My Blu-Ray experience has been completely flawless and stunning. No Bonus Text or anything, and I've never had a problem with BR or DVD disks. PS3 firmware updates are also very simple.

Shame on Samsung.

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Old 01-23-2009, 11:41 PM
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I still don't see any connection re your bulb and the Blu-Ray. It's what we call "a spurious anomaly", better known as a WTF!

As to your Blu-Ray experience, my friend, chalk it up to "forerunner expense", that price we pay for being formidable diddlers.
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Old 01-24-2009, 12:31 AM
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I've got the Sony BDP-S350 and my only real disappointment with the unit is the absurd load times for movies.
 
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Old 01-24-2009, 12:34 AM
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I've got the Sony BDP-S350 and my only real disappointment with the unit is the absurd load times for movies.
I've wondered about that myself. Could it be checking online at load up for any bonus material associated with the movie ? I have mine connected to the router.
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Old 01-24-2009, 12:41 AM
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I've had the same issues with the Samsung. It took us quite a while to figure out how to get one of the little overlay icons to go away.

Is anybody else annoyed with the layout on the remote? There are several menus and control panels that each have their own set of buttons randomly scattered on the remote. You'd think that whenever you were using one of them that if you hit the exit button it should drop you back to the movie...I guess that would be too obvious. The whole control scheme is rather convoluted and unintuitive. It's possible to get used to it, but I design UI as part of my job, and this is some of the worst I've ever seen.

The load times aren't that great either. The whole player just seems sluggish.
 
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Old 01-24-2009, 12:42 AM
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I've got the Sony BDP-S350 and my only real disappointment with the unit is the absurd load times for movies.
What's absurd? I get a brief loading time (10-15 seconds?) at the beginning on the PS3, but it's never felt particularly absurd, at least on the PS3.

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Old 01-24-2009, 12:48 AM
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Is anybody else annoyed with the layout on the remote? There are several menus and control panels that each have their own set of buttons randomly scattered on the remote.
Yeah, it sort of sucks - but I don't have to deal with it very often since I've programmed my Harmony remote to control the DVD player. What I found curious is that some DVDs you use the "DVD Menu" to get to the menu, and some DVDs yo use another menu button. Pretty bizarre.
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Old 01-24-2009, 12:51 AM
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What's absurd? I get a brief loading time (10-15 seconds?) at the beginning on the PS3...
I've noticed that DVD players have gotten slower over time - my old Samsung DVD player from 3-4 years ago would load DVDs quite fast, and layer changes were so smooth you couldn't notice it happening. My fancy new Blu-ray player is at least twice as slow at playing exactly the same DVDs, and changing layers is painfully obvious.

I definitely feel like watching movies on DVD/Blu-ray has taken a bit of a step back over the past few years.
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