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Old 03-25-2008, 01:08 PM
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The problem with that logic is that the iPod is mass market. They've sold 10s of millions of the thing. They're not selling to the 'snobby elite'. The snobby elite of the music world are not generally iPod fans, quite actually. (Not that they're Zune fans either...) When I was an iRiver T10 owner and on some of the iRiver forums, I really saw some people there who were truly into their music.

I don't think its out of character for Apple to offer a pocket friendly service either. Apple products are expensive. Somewhat. Its hard to argue the iPod line, any of them, are currently overpriced. The iPhone voice & data plans are pretty reasonable too. Apple isn't in business to rip its customers off...its in business to make as much money as they can and if they felt a music subscription could make them money, you better believe they're going to offer it.

As far as you not wanting to deal with subscription restrictions (its not even true DRM since you don't own it)...I don't see how its really an issue any more. Can every computer in my house play the music? Check. Can my 360? Check. Can my Zune? Check. Where's the last hold out? My car (where I enjoy listening to the local radio anyway...but that's me. I like my FM tuner ) However, my stereo system will be getting an upgrade in the near future to include a line in. And with that there is no place in my life that I couldn't listen to my subscription music...I imagine its the same for most people. I can't even dream of what else you would want to do with it.
 
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If it wasn't for the fact that music subscription based services were DRM'ed, I would gladly sign up for one. I understand wholeheartedly why it would be stupid to offer a subscription that wasn't DRM'ed, but I personally just cannot deal with the restriction. I like to listen to my music literally everywhere and DRM'ed media prevents me from doing so.
I can do that with PFS (or Zune Pass). My MP3 player, computer, Vista Media Center, and phone can all play music from my subscription service. I guess the only thing I can't do is burn it to a CD, but, personally, that wouldn't give me any place new to listen to the music.
 
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TWhen I was an iRiver T10 owner
I think I still have mine floating around the house somewhere!

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I don't see how its really an issue any more. Can every computer in my house play the music? Check. Can my 360? Check. Can my Zune? Check. Where's the last hold out? My car (where I enjoy listening to the local radio anyway...but that's me. I like my FM tuner )
I should have mentioned that I spend a majority of my computing time using Ubuntu and while I do switch back and forth to Vista regularly, it just gets annoying to have to log into Windows or start up VMWare Workstation just to listen to music. I would just use my Zune, but than I have to wear the headphones and when I'm at home or in the office, I like to play music through my speakers.

I know, I know. I should just suck it up and buy some docking station/speaker set up for my Zune but I haven't really had the time to find a really good one that I like.
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Just buy a cable and plug into the line in
 
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Just buy a cable and plug into the line in
I do that sometimes, especially in the car, but it never sounds as good as I want it to and find myself turning the volume up pretty high on the device or the stereo and than forgetting about it when I unplug it... which in turns causes me to have a heart attack the next time I use to car stereo and forget its turned up so high.
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