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Old 07-13-2004, 02:56 PM
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I was merely saying that although we can stand around and discuss the merits of whether or not a product actually exists, just a few quick looks on their website alone is no indicator that it doesn't. I was also merely pointing out that not every company runs big ad campaigns. Word of mouth is another matter altogether.
You're going through the same cycle most of us went through earlier this year when the first launched their site. Most people, myself included, went to the site and were immediately wowed by all the over-the-top "bling bling" they had, from the hardware to the impressive-sounding marketing speak (RAM-based storage? HOLY CRAP!). I sent the URL to all my friends and said "Wow, check out this awesome vendor!". But, over time, that impressiveness has turned to scorn because I haven't heard about them shipping a single system and have only read a review in Maximum PC that they're not regretting publishing (because no one can ORDER the damn thing).

I honestly don't believe it's a scam per se, more like insane marketing hype. What for, I don't really know. I'm not sure what they're playing at. Maybe they're hyping up products that might not really exist in order to sell/ship products that do (lower end systems). Heck, maybe I'll contact them for a review unit of a $20K laptop. :lol:
 
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Old 07-13-2004, 06:44 PM
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I'm not sure what they're playing at. Maybe they're hyping up products that might not really exist in order to sell/ship products that do (lower end systems). Heck, maybe I'll contact them for a review unit of a $20K laptop. :lol:
Maybe they're figuring that if just one sucker prepays for a $36,000 laptop, then they'll have the money to pop off to Taiwan and have something thrown together for them. Then with the other $30,000, they can live well for a couple of years on a nice island in the Carribean. :lol:
 
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Old 07-13-2004, 09:46 PM
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I'm not sure what they're playing at. Maybe they're hyping up products that might not really exist in order to sell/ship products that do (lower end systems). Heck, maybe I'll contact them for a review unit of a $20K laptop. :lol:
That could be. I just went to their site and looked at their laptops. I have to say, I don't know what the heck a PuRam (or Extended-capacity PuRam) HDD is. They're charging $5000-$10,000 just for the drive! 8O What the heck is that? That doesn't even sound real and I can't see where they ever once explain exactly what it is. They don't even mention what the capacity is! :? This is becoming really annoying and gradually becoming clearer to me why people are so irritated. The laptops they're selling are Clevo based designs - like Sager 8790's or Hypersonic GX7's. They're even charging $40 for the stupid remote that ordinarily comes free with any 8790/GX7 equipped with a TV tuner.

I think you should challenge them by asking them for a $25,000 system to review.

I've seen companies that do silly things or stupid things when marketing their products, and although I've known about L for quite some time now, now that I'm actually looking at their info more closely, this is just strange.

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Maybe they're figuring that if just one sucker prepays for a $36,000 laptop, then they'll have the money to pop off to Taiwan and have something thrown together for them. Then with the other $30,000, they can live well for a couple of years on a nice island in the Carribean. :lol:
Yeah, really. :lol:
 
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Old 07-14-2004, 12:23 AM
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I don't know what the heck a PuRam (or Extended-capacity PuRam) HDD is. They're charging $5000-$10,000 just for the drive! 8O What the heck is that?
I think it's a RAM-based drive. i.e.: you have 2 GB of RAM that you can load software into, and it's executed at the speed of RAM rather than a hard drive that's 1000's of times slower. Cool concept, but I've never seen it implemented in a consumer-level product.
 
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Old 07-14-2004, 01:07 AM
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RAM disk drives are available.. it's a matter of you wanting to pay for it, that's all. =P
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Old 07-14-2004, 04:53 AM
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RAM disk drives are available.. it's a matter of you wanting to pay for it, that's all. =P
Right. Which is why I said a consumer level product. I've seen some enterprise/server type products, but never anything integrated into a laptop aimed at the general consumer market. ;-)
 
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Old 07-14-2004, 09:15 AM
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I think it's a RAM-based drive. i.e.: you have 2 GB of RAM that you can load software into, and it's executed at the speed of RAM rather than a hard drive that's 1000's of times slower. Cool concept, but I've never seen it implemented in a consumer-level product.
Well, I figured that it was RAM based, but I was trying to imagine exactly what that kind of a module would look like, the casing, etc. - I've never actually seen one and didn't know they existed - so I was thinking, "What on earth is this thing?". And without knowing the capacity, the speed factor alone makes it impossible to truly understand it's value. Interesting concept, though.

How do you know that it was 2GB, or are you just takin' a guess? I didn't happen to see the capacity of these "drives" on their site. Are you aware of what the maximum capacity could be for a single RAM drive? (Not just for a laptop, but for a desktop or server as well)? I'm curious.

Although I'd love to have a HDD solution that operated as fast as RAM, apart from speed, why would someone want to replace a 60 GB 7200rpm HDD, for example, (which seems to work for practically everyone else out there, including the military for many applications) with only a 2GB RAM drive, when they could place that much and potentially more into their system as typical DDR RAM, anyway, and of course, for a much lower cost? Especially when considering the added speed and capacity someone could achieve with a RAID 0 setup (even in a laptop). The only difference that I can see between typical RAM and a RAM drive would be non-volatility with the RAM drive.

Based on only 2GB and the above statements, it seems that even though you'd be gaining a lot of speed, you'd be sacrificing an awful lot - capacity and money.

I think this way because I would think that any scientists or researchers, for example, who thought they could take advantage of this kind of speed, would need a lot more than a few gigs of non-volatile storage for their apps. But even if the capacities for a RAM drive were equal to that of the HDD's we typically use, while also considering the highest end needs, I'm trying to understand where something like this would truly be required apart from military applications. When thinking of other industries, I think of a company like Pixar, for example, who would need the highest end equipment to accomplish their tasks - aren't they just using high speed SCSI or serial drives for their work? The military could justify the expense of high capacity RAM drives, but apart from simply wanting to have the technology, I wonder what other industries could honestly justify the expense?
 
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