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Jason Dunn
04-01-2009, 07:00 PM
<p><img src="http://images.thoughtsmedia.com/resizer/thumbs/size/600/zt/auto/1238604677.usr1.jpg" style="border: 1px solid #d2d2bb;" /></p><p>My default view in the Zune desktop software is the Album view, sorted by date added - this allows me to quickly access albums I've purchased recently, and I love it. What I don't love, however, is how the Zune software will bump an old album to the top of the recently added list when you change it's metadata. In the above screenshot, the LL Cool J album is listed as my newest album added to my collection, but all I did was mark "Phenomenon" as a song that I liked yesterday - the song itself was added to my collection many months ago.</p><p>And while I'm at it, it would be great if the Zune itself had a "date added" option for viewing music - because this is the view I like using on the desktop software, I miss having the same thing on my Zune.</p>

David Tucker
04-01-2009, 07:17 PM
And while I'm at it, it would be great if the Zune itself had a "date added" option for viewing music - because this is the view I like using on the desktop software, I miss having the same thing on my Zune.

With you here. I'll add music at night and then the next day I may forget what all I added. I really want this to be a view.

serpico
04-02-2009, 01:19 AM
I really hate this about the software. I really liked using it at first but moving my music around made me frustrated. It's still a pig to use.

Trastan
04-02-2009, 06:29 AM
That's odd, because no amount of metadata editing/ranking that I do adjusts the date added order for me. Everything works as it should, from what I can tell. For what it's worth, I'm running Vista Home Premium x64.

I hope those of you who are suffering from this get it figured out easily.:confused:

Jason Dunn
04-02-2009, 09:28 PM
It's still a pig to use.

Hmm. I find that the start-up time has gotten slower with every update, which I dislike, but once it's loaded I find it very snappy with the 13,000+ songs I have in it. In what way is it "piggish" for you?

David Tucker
04-02-2009, 10:22 PM
13,000+?? Wow, I only have 4,000 on my Zune and that's about what I've got on my desktop.

serpico
04-02-2009, 11:02 PM
Hmm. I find that the start-up time has gotten slower with every update, which I dislike, but once it's loaded I find it very snappy with the 13,000+ songs I have in it. In what way is it "piggish" for you?

I have about 11,000 songs in it right now and I think even with graphical features off and XP in classic mode appearance, it is sluggish at times. Moving from menus, syncing with the 120 takes way too long. I wanted to use it daily because it is so much nicer than iTunes, but all the little bugs just keep appearing to remind me why I don't use it. I don't recall my older harddisk iPods taking forever to sync except the initial sync to transfer my library or during a restore process.

Jason Dunn
04-03-2009, 05:21 AM
Moving from menus, syncing with the 120 takes way too long. I wanted to use it daily because it is so much nicer than iTunes, but all the little bugs just keep appearing to remind me why I don't use it. I don't recall my older harddisk iPods taking forever to sync except the initial sync to transfer my library or during a restore process.

Hmm. I'm curious, what kind of computer are you running this on - CPU, RAM, HD speed, GPU, etc? I don't see any lag moving from menu to menu.

On the sync issue, I agree with you - I've been meaning to post about this actually, because I feel like the sync speeds on my Zune 80 are getting worse and worse - I want to do some testing to get some hard numbers, but when I dock my Zune and the sync groups has it add maybe three albums, if that, it should not take 3+ minutes to do that.

serpico
04-03-2009, 09:11 PM
Hmm. I'm curious, what kind of computer are you running this on - CPU, RAM, HD speed, GPU, etc? I don't see any lag moving from menu to menu.

On the sync issue, I agree with you - I've been meaning to post about this actually, because I feel like the sync speeds on my Zune 80 are getting worse and worse - I want to do some testing to get some hard numbers, but when I dock my Zune and the sync groups has it add maybe three albums, if that, it should not take 3+ minutes to do that.

I've tried it on various systems, from my HP P4 3.0GHz, 1.25GB ram, 128mb ATI videocard, a DELL laptop & desktop with similar specs, and a Macbook Pro 17" model that seems to work the best surprisingly with VMware and XP. Crazy but yes, must be the 512mb video card in it perhaps.

Jason Dunn
04-03-2009, 11:45 PM
I've tried it on various systems, from my HP P4 3.0GHz, 1.25GB ram, 128mb ATI videocard, a DELL laptop & desktop with similar specs, and a Macbook Pro 17" model that seems to work the best surprisingly with VMware and XP. Crazy but yes, must be the 512mb video card in it perhaps.

Have you tried going into SETTINGS > DISPLAY and setting the screen graphics to minimum? I bet that will make a big difference on your weaker-GPU systems. 1.25 GB RAM might be kind of slim, especially if you're running other things at the same time. Remember it's firing up a big database to make it all work...

Mookoo
04-04-2009, 02:01 AM
You know you could just make a 'Recently Added' Playlist. Not that difficult, and works quite well. Also, I have a Brown 30 GB and around 3,500 songs I believe, a few episodes of South Park, five movies, and a couple video podcasts. Sync time is nothing really, and when I add a few albums, done in less than a minute or so.

serpico
04-05-2009, 12:58 AM
Have you tried going into SETTINGS > DISPLAY and setting the screen graphics to minimum? I bet that will make a big difference on your weaker-GPU systems. 1.25 GB RAM might be kind of slim, especially if you're running other things at the same time. Remember it's firing up a big database to make it all work...

I've done that already. I don't run anything except the zune software because I know as soon as I do, it all lags.

Trastan
04-05-2009, 06:08 AM
My guess is that you have a slow/dying hard drive. The Zune software is tremendously hard drive intensive, and if your drive isn't up to the task it can get pretty sluggish.

serpico
04-06-2009, 07:24 PM
Thanks for the suggestions but I've decided not to use it daily. What's the point when the Zune120 takes too long to sync play data, etc from the software. I'll give it another shot when it gets updated again.

Jason Dunn
04-07-2009, 12:03 AM
I've done that already. I don't run anything except the zune software because I know as soon as I do, it all lags.

Hmm. If that's the case, then it doesn't seem GPU-related. Seems more like a RAM or maybe a HD issue?

PEdlund
12-30-2010, 08:02 PM
Hi All... I know it's less than graceful, but I've successfully used a tool called FileDate Changer to edit the file properties so my Zune files dont get messed up. I tend to rebuild my laptop often and this is the biggest pain but at least this utility helped.

http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/filedatech.html