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Chris Gohlke
02-09-2009, 03:00 PM
<p><img src="http://images.thoughtsmedia.com/resizer/thumbs/size/600/dht/auto/1233701627.usr10.jpg" style="border: 0;" /></p><h6><strong>Product Category:</strong> Digital Video Player</h6><h6><strong>Manufacturer:</strong> Roku</h6><h6><strong>Where to Buy:</strong> <a href="http://www.roku.com/netflixplayer/order-now.php" target="_blank">Directly from Roku</a></h6><h6><strong>Price:</strong> $99</h6><h6><strong>System Requirements:</strong> Netflix account, Wired or Wireless Internet Access, TV</h6><h6><strong></strong></h6><p><strong>Pros:</strong></p><ul><li>Inexpensive;</li><li>Wireless built in;</li><li>Small and silent.</li></ul><p><strong>Cons:</strong></p><ul><li>Might be redundant if you already have an Xbox;</li><li>No power button;</li><li>Stereo Only.</li></ul><p><strong>Summary:</strong> If you have Netflix, you've got access to their "Watch Instantly" feature, giving you instant access to over 12,000 movies and TV shows via the web.&nbsp; To get the most out of this service, you really want to be able to watch these on more than just you computer.&nbsp; Netflix has made this feature available via a number of platforms, including Tivo, a Samsung Blu-ray player, the Xbox 360, and The Netflix Player by Roku (the subject of this review).&nbsp; After the break, my thoughts on Roku's diminutive offering.<MORE /></p><h1>Hardware</h1><p>In the box, you get a manual, remote control, power adapter, and the unit itself.&nbsp;</p><p><img src="http://images.thoughtsmedia.com/resizer/thumbs/size/600/dht/auto/1232663406.usr10.jpg" style="border: 1px solid #d2d2bb;" /></p><p><em>Figure 1: In the box.</em></p><p>The Netflix Player measures a diminutive 5 1/4 inches square by 1 3/4 inches tall and weighs in at 10 1/2 ounces.&nbsp; Roku includes just about every potential connection type from composite through HDMI, so this device should work with anything but the oldest of TVs.&nbsp;</p><p><img src="http://images.thoughtsmedia.com/resizer/thumbs/size/600/dht/auto/1232640710.usr10.jpg" style="border: 1px solid #d2d2bb;" /></p><p><em>Figure 2: Connections.</em></p><p>As far as network connectivity goes, you've got 10/100 Ethernet as well as 802.11 b/g wireless with WEP, WPA, and WPA2 support.&nbsp; When hooked up to my Kill-a-watt, the unit only draws 5 watts, even when in use.&nbsp; However, it always draws 5 watts and there is no power button. &nbsp;The remote is small and has a minimum number of well sized buttons, which, as you will see, work well with the simplified user interface.</p><p><img src="http://images.thoughtsmedia.com/resizer/thumbs/size/600/dht/auto/1232640476.usr10.jpg" style="border: 1px solid #d2d2bb;" /></p><p><em>Figure 3:&nbsp; Remote.</em></p><p><PAGE /></p><h1>Setup</h1><p>Setup is a piece of cake.&nbsp; Simply plug it in and walk through the setup menu to indicate if you are connecting via wired or wireless (giving it your log-in information if by wireless).&nbsp; Once connected, you are given a code which you then input at the Netflix site to create the connection between your Netflix account and the Roku box.&nbsp; Once you're connected, you will need to go to your computer to add items to your "Watch Instantly" queue.&nbsp; Ideally, I'd like to be able to search, add, and delete items from my queue directly from the box, but I believe this is a limitation from Netflix, not Roku. Once you've added items to your queue, they will show up as available to watch on the Netflix Box.&nbsp;</p><h1>Usage</h1><p>The user interface is a simple left to right scroll showing the cover art from each item.&nbsp; However, if you have a pretty large queue, it can take a while to scroll through them all.&nbsp; If the item you've selected is a TV series, you'll then get to select the episode and are given a short description of each.&nbsp; A progress bar will show you how much of each episode you've watched in the event you previously stopped part way through. &nbsp;Once you press play, the box runs a connection check and begins to buffer your content.&nbsp; Netflix rates the streams between one and four dots and HD.&nbsp; I mostly got four dot downloads and found everything except one dot streams to be watchable with four dots being a bit lower than DVD quality and HD (720p) being better than DVD but not on par with Blu-Ray.&nbsp; Most items took less than a minute to buffer and start.&nbsp; I did find it at times a challenge to get an HD connection and would like to see an option to force HD if I am willing to wait longer for the content to buffer.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><img src="http://images.thoughtsmedia.com/resizer/thumbs/size/600/dht/auto/1232640483.usr10.jpg" style="border: 1px solid #d2d2bb;" /></p><p><em>Figure 4:&nbsp; Main Menu.</em></p><p><img src="http://images.thoughtsmedia.com/resizer/thumbs/size/600/dht/auto/1232640488.usr10.jpg" style="border: 1px solid #d2d2bb;" /></p><p><em>Figure 5: Netflix Queue.</em></p><p><img src="http://images.thoughtsmedia.com/resizer/thumbs/size/600/dht/auto/1232640496.usr10.jpg" style="border: 1px solid #d2d2bb;" /></p><p><em>Figure 6:&nbsp; Episode Listing.</em></p><p><img src="http://images.thoughtsmedia.com/resizer/thumbs/size/600/dht/auto/1232640502.usr10.jpg" style="border: 1px solid #d2d2bb;" /></p><p><em>Figure 7:&nbsp; Episode Detail.</em></p><p><img src="http://images.thoughtsmedia.com/resizer/thumbs/size/600/dht/auto/1232640508.usr10.jpg" style="border: 1px solid #d2d2bb;" /></p><p><em>Figure 8:&nbsp; Buffering.</em></p><p><img src="http://images.thoughtsmedia.com/resizer/thumbs/size/600/dht/auto/1232640514.usr10.jpg" style="border: 1px solid #d2d2bb;" /></p><p><em>Figure 9:&nbsp; That's what she said.</em></p><p><PAGE /></p><h1>Versus the Xbox 360</h1><p>I was debating between getting the Roku box, or using my 360 to stream Netflix.&nbsp; I ended up deciding the Roku was a better fit for me for a variety of reasons.&nbsp; First off, I don't have Xbox Live Gold (required for Netflix) so I'd be paying about $40 per year as opposed to a $99 one time fee for the Roku box.&nbsp; If you game online anyway and already have an Xbox Live Gold account, you're value proposition will change dramatically.&nbsp; Second, since Roku uses only 5 watts, it seems much more efficient to use the Roku as the Xbox is overkill.&nbsp; Third, the Roku is silent as opposed to my 360, which is a bit on the noisy side.&nbsp; Finally, with its small size and built-in wireless, the Roku is very easy to move from room to room, so it has a big advantage that I can easily use it on all my TVs. &nbsp;</p><h1>Conclusion</h1><p>If you've got Netflix, The Netflix Box by Roku is an excellent way to leverage the "Watch Instantly" feature past your computer and to the rest of your TVs.&nbsp; It is available <a href="http://www.roku.com/netflixplayer/" target="_blank">directly from Roku</a> for $99.</p><p><em>Chris Gohlke is a Contributing Editor for Digital Home Thoughts. He loves poker, RPGs, and Sci-Fi and loves to get his hands on real-life tech gadgets. He lives in Tallahassee, Florida, USA with his wife and three cats.</em></p><p><img src="http://images.thoughtsmedia.com//ppct/auto/1240336793.usr1.gif" /></p><p><strong>Do you enjoy using new hardware, software and accessories, then sharing your experience with others? Then join us on the <a href="http://www.thoughtsmedia.com/reviewteam.php" target="_blank">Thoughts Media Review Team</a>! We're looking for individuals who find it fun to test new gear and give their honest opinions about the experience. It's a volunteer role with some great perks. Interested? <a href="http://www.thoughtsmedia.com/reviewteam.php" target="_blank">Then click here for more information.</a></strong></p><p><img src="http://images.thoughtsmedia.com//ppct/auto/1240336793.usr1.gif" /></p>

doogald
02-09-2009, 04:04 PM
The other part of "almost perfect" has to be the catalog. 12,000 titles sounds like a lot, but there are a lot of quality movies on my DVD list that are not available to stream - only 21 out of 147 - and the ones that are there are nowhere near the ones I am excited to see.

I personally could not invest in any standalone product for Netflix streaming until they come close to a point where every major movie is available to stream within a reasonable period of time after the DVD release - say, 30 days for most titles, 90 days for extremely popular titles. Otherwise, I can simply make do with having a couple of DVDs at home at any give time.

Bob Christensen
02-09-2009, 05:13 PM
Thanks for the review. I've been interested in knowing more about the ROKU and wondering if it offered much beyond my setup, where I use my laptop attached to my HDTV to view NetFlix streaming video.

One downside of using a computer laptop seems to be no indication of the quality you're getting. There is never an "HD" indicated (perhaps not even available without the Roku? ...does anyone know?). I've had movies that were close to DVD quality, or less, but never higher. If HD is only available via the Roku, I think I'd go for it for $99. It's true the catalog doesn't have much of the newer stuff, but there is still a big selection of movies and TV (more in my queue than I ever have time to watch!).

John Lane
02-09-2009, 05:39 PM
I like it alot, but I agree the inventory is a little on the weak side.

Chris Gohlke
02-09-2009, 07:21 PM
The other part of "almost perfect" has to be the catalog. 12,000 titles sounds like a lot, but there are a lot of quality movies on my DVD list that are not available to stream - only 21 out of 147 - and the ones that are there are nowhere near the ones I am excited to see.

I agree, that can be a problem, but it was not part of my almost perfect assessment. Even though I talk about the service, it was in context of the article. So in short, I was not reviewing the Netflix service, more the Roku box, but I'll admit, the line is blurry. If you want to discuss the depth of films offered, I think you do need to give credit that this is really a companion service to getting movies in the mail on DVD with the long term end game of course being to reduce the number of items mailed by having a better online catalog.

Macguy59
02-11-2009, 04:31 AM
I've had the Roku box for almost a month now. I had hoped to have a more timely experience with the service over the ATV (30 day wait for new release rentals) I had but as pointed out the selection of new releases is poor. I'm also disappointed with the so-called HD quality. It might look better on a smaller screen but on my Samsung 50" it pales in comparison to the HD content I watched via ATV. Need a hack to allow Netflix via ATV :(

Chris Gohlke
02-11-2009, 04:47 PM
I just found out that my con about stereo only is also a Netflix issue. The box itself is capable of 5.1 output (as should have been evident to me by the optical audio out).

doogald
02-11-2009, 05:13 PM
Need a hack to allow Netflix via ATV :(

Well, there is Boxee. I do not have an Apple TV, but it worked great on my Mac, including access to Netflix content.

http://boxee.tv/

Macguy59
02-11-2009, 09:50 PM
Well, there is Boxee. I do not have an Apple TV, but it worked great on my Mac, including access to Netflix content.

http://boxee.tv/

I did install Boxee on mine but I found the interface inconsistent and difflcult to navigate. Netflix via Boxee only works on the computer version of it (unfortunately)

Macguy59
02-13-2009, 02:31 AM
Another thing that has been bugging me about NetFlix is that they hide the newest releases from you. I would look at Blockbusters newest release list and see a movie like "W" listed but when I go looking for it on Netflix it's not in any of the new release categories. None. I decided to use their search box and boom . . . there it is. It shows the genre as 'Drama' but doesn't show up in that genre of new releases. After a quick Google search it seems that Netflix does this on purpose to slow down the back log of the newest releases. Shame on them. However, I found the link that will show you ALL of the new releases. You guys may already know about it.

ALL new releases (http://www.netflix.com/AllNewReleases?lnkctr=NavAllNewReleases)

Chris Gohlke
02-13-2009, 03:29 AM
Yeah, I've known about that link for a while and check it at the beginning of every week. I think it is a bit shady but not completely evil. It would be nice if it was right there on the main page, but at least they didn't disable it. If you really want that feature, you will do as you did and search for it and be happy.

doogald
02-13-2009, 03:38 AM
After a quick Google search it seems that Netflix does this on purpose to slow down the back log of the newest releases. Shame on them.

Actually, that sounds quite smart.

I regularly add movies to my queue well before they are released, and they just creep up into the queue (from the saved list below) about a week or two before they are released.

Macguy59
02-13-2009, 03:41 AM
Actually, that sounds quite smart.


Sure from a business point of view. It's more than a little shady from the consumer point of view.