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Jason Dunn
05-07-2008, 11:49 PM
<img border="1" alt="" src="http://images.thoughtsmedia.com/resizer/thumbs/size/600/dht/auto/1210199879.usr1.jpg" /><br /><br />We all enjoy approval and encouragement, even if it comes from strangers. Sometimes <em>especially</em> if it comes from strangers, because it can seem more genuine (hey, your mom is supposed to love you no matter what). This is a cautionary tale for photographers. About seven years ago (yeah, this story goes back a ways) I saw a banner ad for a photo contest, and I thought &quot;What the heck, I'll enter one of my photos and see what happens.&quot; It was a <a href="http://www.picture.com" target="_blank">Picture.com</a> contest, which they seem to be <a href="http://www.picture.com/contest/enter.asp" target="_blank">still running at the time of this writing</a>.<br /><br />When I submitted my photos, I thought it was a pretty good image - it was a picture of my young cousin smiling, and it's hard to take a bad photo of a child smiling. At the time I took this photo I had a Canon Powershot S100 (no digital SLR yet), and I was just starting to get interested in photography. I didn't think my image was &quot;award winning&quot; by any stretch, but sometimes all it takes to be the winner is for no one else to show up, so I thought I'd give it a try. Below is the image I submitted for the &quot;contest&quot;. <MORE /><br /><br /><img border="1" src="http://images.thoughtsmedia.com/resizer/thumbs/size/600/dht/auto/1210193461.usr1.jpg" alt="" /><br /><em>Figure 1: Aww, ain't she cute?</em><br /><br />A week or two after submitted the photo, I received an email message from the contest organizers. If memory serves, it was from the prestigious-sounding &quot;International Library of Photography&quot;. They said my photo had been accepted into a forthcoming hardcover photography book that would be published within a few months. I was elated! I thought that getting one of my photos published in a book was quite an accomplishment, so when they sent me a link to an online form to order the book, I ordered two - and passed the link on to my uncle and aunt so they could order a copy of the book as well. They might have passed it along to others. After shipping and customs fees to get the books to Canada I think they ended up costing nearly $80 each (the book itself was around $50). I didn't care about the cost - my photo was in a book! When it arrived, it was a nicely-bound hardcover book that looked like a work of quality...until I opened it up and looked at the photos inside.<br /><br /><img border="1" src="http://images.thoughtsmedia.com/resizer/thumbs/size/600/dht/auto/1210193060.usr1.jpg" alt="" /><br /><em>Figure 2: The book of &quot;award-winning&quot; photos that my photo was included in.</em><br /><br />The book was quite thick, and on every page there were six small photos - and once I started seeing the quality of the photos, page after page, the sudden realization of what this book was came to me: every single person who submitted a photo for the contest was &quot;winner&quot;. Every &quot;winner&quot; was told that their photo would appear in this hard-cover photo book, and every winner was given the opportunity to purchase a book for $50. Now if you had entered your photo in a contest, and told it was a &quot;winning entry&quot; and would be published in a hard-cover book, wouldn't you buy at least one copy? Sure you would - you'd want to have a record of your winning photos and and 30 seconds of fame knowing that you were in a book. I bet at least 80% of the &quot;winners&quot; purchased one or more copies of the book. There were 207 pages of photos in the book, six photos per page, so roughly 1200 photos. Let's say of those 1200 photos, the photographer bought an average of one book - some would certainly buy more, some might not buy at all. Some quick math tells us that this book might sell $60,000 worth, easy. If Picture.com does this six times a year...well that's quite a tidy sum garnered from the &quot;winners&quot; of their photography &quot;contest&quot;. Here's an example of what kinds of photos were included in the book:<br /><br /><img border="1" src="http://images.thoughtsmedia.com/resizer/thumbs/size/600/dht/auto/1210193066.usr1.jpg" alt="" /><br /><br />The bottom two photos might be considered &quot;nice&quot; photos, and perhaps even award-winning if the playing field was small enough, but the top two? The top two images are simply bad photos in every sense of the word. They might represent wonderful memories for the photographers that took them, but there's really nothing compelling about them from a photographic point of view. I flipped through the book, feeling a sense of disbelief: photo after photo, most of the images were like these top two. Sure, every so often I'd come across an image that was decent, but over 90% of the photos in the book were poorly framed, grainy, low-resolution, and certainly wouldn't win in a real photo contest, even if it were the only only entry.<br /><br />Picture.com suckered me in with their &quot;contest&quot;, and it looks liked they're still at it - <a target="_blank" href="http://www.picture.com/contest/winlist.asp">look at this gigantic list of &quot;winners&quot;</a>; there must be thousands of names there. While some of the images I looked at were quite good, <a target="_blank" href="http://www.picture.com/display.asp?ID=1577524">others were...less so</a>. There's nothing illegal about what Picture.com is doing, but I don't consider if ethical in any way - hopefully by publishing this article you'll know to be wary of this company and their &quot;contests&quot;.<br /><br /><em>Jason Dunn owns and operates <a href="http://www.thoughtsmedia.com" target="_blank">Thoughts Media Inc.</a>, a company dedicated to creating the best in online communities. He enjoys <a href="http://photos.jasondunn.com" target="_blank">photography</a>, mobile devices, <a href="http://www.jasondunn.com" target="_blank">blogging</a>, digital media content creation/editing, and pretty much all technology. He lives in Calgary, Alberta, Canada with his lovely wife, and his sometimes obedient dog. He still feels a bit sheepish he was scammed like this.</em>

Janak Parekh
05-08-2008, 01:05 AM
This seems like a pictorial version of the all-time famous scam known as Who's Who.

--janak

The Yaz
05-08-2008, 05:08 AM
I had a similar experience submitting poetry to the American Poetry Association. To be fair, they explained that all entrants would be published as long as the committee found the work to be decent in nature.

There are hundreds of pages of poerty within the published anthology, but they do have a seperate section listing the "winners" and the categories they were chosen for.

It did not seem like a big deal when I was in High School, but now that I'm older, I have to say that it's cool to know Ihave an artistic work published and copyrighted...

Steve :cool:

onlydarksets
05-08-2008, 06:31 PM
<more>Picture.com suckered me in with their "contest", and it looks liked they're still at it - look at this gigantic list of "winners" (http://www.picture.com/contest/winlist.asp); there must be thousands of names there.
7012 First Place "winners", to be exact. Another 71 Grand Prize "winners", and 6 "Annual Grand Prize winners".

Well, it's all happened to us in one form or another (anyone else a member of "Who's Who"?). Thanks for sharing to hopefully warn others of this scam.
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Jason Dunn
05-09-2008, 05:29 PM
This seems like a pictorial version of the all-time famous scam known as Who's Who.

It's evidently less famous than you think - I'm not familiar with that and Wikipedia has 587 entries for that term. ;)

Janak Parekh
05-09-2008, 06:40 PM
It's evidently less famous than you think - I'm not familiar with that and Wikipedia has 587 entries for that term. ;) Hmm. Who's Who was originally a legit thing back in the UK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who%27s_Who_%28UK%29), but it's not a trademarked name, so there's a million companies, many of which publish your name in a book for some nominal fee plus the cost of the book. Maybe it's more common here in the US...

--janak

Jason Dunn
05-09-2008, 06:41 PM
7012 First Place "winners", to be exact. Another 71 Grand Prize "winners", and 6 "Annual Grand Prize winners".

How on earth did you manage to calculate that? Do you have a lot of time on your hands? :D

Jason Dunn
05-09-2008, 06:42 PM
...so there's a million companies, many of which publish your name in a book for some nominal fee plus the cost of the book. Maybe it's more common here in the US...

Ok, that's what I thought you might have been referring to - I've gotten a lot of spam about that over the years. :o

bonnie911
06-10-2008, 04:22 PM
Thanks for posting your experience. I sent in a picture two years ago and they continue to send me award announcements. I recently received an email stating I would receive to airline tickets so I can attend the next award ceremony. When I follow the link it states that by signing up as a member (only $169) I would get a $100 discount off admission to the next award ceremony and nothing about airline tickets. This website is a rip off and should be shut down. My husband keeps telling me to do it but my gut instinct says no. So I googled "awards from picture.com"to find this blog. My instinct are right. So thanks again, I am glad I did not send them money! :)

Jason Dunn
06-10-2008, 07:39 PM
So I googled "awards from picture.com"to find this blog. My instinct are right. So thanks again, I am glad I did not send them money! :)

I'm glad I could help you out Bonnie. :)