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Pete Paxton
04-21-2008, 09:00 AM
<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://mobilitysite.com/2008/04/30-reasons-windows-mobile-is-superior-to-iphone/' target='_blank'>http://mobilitysite.com/2008/04/30-...rior-to-iphone/</a><br /><br /></div><em>&quot;In this article, I have included my initial observations and added some new ones for a condensed list of 30 features lacking in the iPhone. I say condensed because I have subsumed some items into a single point. For example, rather than list all the peripherals the iPhone does not support, I merely say that it doesn&rsquo;t support peripherals. At the end of the article, I try to be fair by pointing out what I like about the iPhone in its current stage of evolution.&quot;<br /><br /></em><img border="0" alt="" src="http://images.thoughtsmedia.com//spt/auto/1208722043.usr11642.gif" /><br /><br />Unlike Tim over at Mobility Site, I do take the iPhone seriously. I have travelled twice out of state since having the iPhone and it has served all my needs perfectly. It's true that it doesn't offer word processing or spreadsheet creation or editing, but I am able to view them which is all I really need. My Dash has been able to create and edit business docs for two years and you know how many I created? Three. On the other hand, if you use your smartphone for business apps, I don't recommend an iPhone. I haven't missed Bluetooth stereo, Infrared capabilities, or satellite radio but if you want these, then a Windows Mobile device is more of what you're looking for. I use the iPhone as my main device because of its Internet ability, WiFi, crystal clear large screen, music and video, viewing pictures, my schedule, and its slick cool interface. I do miss being able to install true apps such as ebooks, and a bible. As mentioned in the article I suspect many of these issues will be resolved either in the iPhone app store or in the iPhone 2. What it really comes down to is what <em><strong>you</strong></em> want and what <em><strong>you</strong></em> need. For others to tell me what's best for me just doesn't make sense. So which is it for you? An iPhone? A Windows Mobile device? Why one and not the other?<br /><br /><em></em>

indiekiduk
04-21-2008, 10:42 AM
A great thing about the iphone is the ability to install hundreds of apps using the Installer application. There is an ebook reader and a bible. Easiest way to get Installer is with ziphone.org

Stinger
04-21-2008, 11:42 AM
The author doesn't seem to have a very good idea of the iPhone's capabilities. For example, he mentions that it doesn't have WiFi when it obviously does. There's also no mention of the apps available to jailbroken iPhones, including eBooks and MMS.

It's also a little disingenuous to compare the iPhone against every feature possible on Windows Mobile phone, rather than what's probable. How many WinMo phones have every feature listed? Comparing the iPhone directly against the Tilt would have made for a better comparison.

There's certainly a lot of things that WinMo can do better than the iPhone but I don't think this is a very good list of them.

Ed Hansberry
04-21-2008, 12:40 PM
There's also no mention of the apps available to jailbroken iPhones, including eBooks and MMS.
I don't think it is reasonable to expect the normal consumer to hack their device just to run apps. That would be a bit like a Winmo user being expected to use a cooked rom from XDA Developers to get some features.

I am not saying I agree with all points of the article. I don't. But until Apple true third party apps are available for the iPhone through Apple's store, this article has this portion correct.

Also, you said he didn't get the wifi comment right. So the iphone <i>does</i> support 802.11g/e? I only see b/g support on Apple's site.

All that said, I know of no Winmo device that has all 30 of those features, and I am not sure what some of those are. What the heck am I supposed to do with an optical eyewear player? :confused:

Stinger
04-21-2008, 01:15 PM
I don't think it is reasonable to expect the normal consumer to hack their device just to run apps. That would be a bit like a Winmo user being expected to use a cooked rom from XDA Developers to get some features.

If you're smart enough to use a WinMo Pro device, you're definitely smart enough to jailbreak an iPhone. The process takes less than a minute with ZiPhone. Once you're done, it's a lot easier to install apps on your iPhone than it is to install apps on a WinMo Pro device.

There's a centralized repository for the apps and it even tells you when there's updates available for your installed apps. Wouldn't you love to see that kind of functionality on WinMo? I know I certainly would.

hamishmacdonald
04-21-2008, 01:30 PM
- Cut + paste.
- The ability to work with local files.
- Word processing + the capacity to use an external keyboard.

This is the trifecta of reasons why this, in my opinion, does not qualify as a computer and Windows Mobile devices do. I don't need a laptop because I can work away from home on my Touch Cruise. Yeah, I wish it was as slick and easy as the iPhone, but at the end of the day if I can't use the thing to do work, it doesn't matter how pretty it is.

whydidnt
04-21-2008, 02:14 PM
- Cut + paste.
- The ability to work with local files.
- Word processing + the capacity to use an external keyboard.

This is the trifecta of reasons why this, in my opinion, does not qualify as a computer and Windows Mobile devices do. I don't need a laptop because I can work away from home on my Touch Cruise. Yeah, I wish it was as slick and easy as the iPhone, but at the end of the day if I can't use the thing to do work, it doesn't matter how pretty it is.

This is a great point. The thing is for a lot of people these 3 things aren't that important (though cut & paste really should be!). For me the discussion regarding Windows Mobile vs. iPhone always seems far too interface focused. I still maintain that a significant part of the iPhone's appeal is the hardware: Big, hi-res screen, tons of memory and a compact form factor -- that's my trifecta. :) Throw in a more capable internet browser and you have many that find the iPhone's pros outweigh the flexibility offered by Windows Mobile.

I'm not sure why Apple has crippled the bluetooth functionality of the device, perhaps to satisfy At&T? However, that continues to be a major negative that could easily be rectified if Apple feels motivated. Many shortcomings will be addressed when third party apps become available, but I don't think Bluetooth will be one of them. Access to the file system, and related file management may be another that isn't, but I'm not sure how they will manage that and still allow third party office apps to exist. How am I supposed to find my docs to edit if I don't have access to the file system?

In any event, I am often surprised by the level of hostility some Windows Mobile fans have towards the iPhone, as demonstrated in Tim's article.. come on, I can't change window animations?:rolleyes: Windows Mobile fans should be jumping for joy with every new feature added to the iPhone. Those new features can only serve to push Microsoft harder to deliver a better experience to all of us.

Of course, some of the more cynical might say that MS doesn't care that much about Windows Mobile, that it was only a vehicle to sell more Exchange and Office licenses, where they can make real money. Once the iPhone joins Symbian in having access to Exchange and editing Office documents, does Microsoft really care if you buy an iPhone instead of Windows Mobile device? They'll probably get paid either way, right?

Mikey
04-21-2008, 02:15 PM
On the contrary to most / all of these types of posts:

1) iPHONE does NOT lock up. It is a PHONE. It should at least do that well AND IT DOES! I have tried several WM phones (AT&T 8125, Tilt, Treo 750) & ALL of them are underpowered & hence, they lock up / freeze all the time. I have seen arguments that the iPHONE doesn't multi-task & that is why they don't lock up. WM should learn from this. How long & how many posts request that WM change the minimize button to a close button.

2) I recently tried a WM Treo 750 running WM6 (in the last 30 days), as my buddy had a brand new one he used for about 45 days, then couldn't return it. I will be putting it on eBAY this week, after only 3.5 weeks of use. I had gotten used to the daily or more soft resets required to use this phone. I'd also gotten use to other built-in bugs but on Saturday morning of last week, it gave an error message & failed to Active Sync with my laptop. The WM error message I Googled found no help at Microsoft's website. I completed the steps, then decided a converged WM device is asking the software / hardware too much.

3) That same best friend who sold me the Treo 750 (albeit with the warning that it was WM junk), has carried an iPHONE since they came out. He loves it due to NO LOCK UPS & NO RESETS! It just works!

4) Too many Microsoft paid MVP's make excuses (30 of them in this article) for WM. Excuse away the need for change on WM part?

5) As soon as Pocket Quicken, Laridian PocketBible, & Pocket Informant become available for the iPHONE &/or the BlackBerry, I'll have no reason for WM at all!!!

I will be switching to the 3G iPHONE when it arrives. For now, I am forced to carry a BB Pearl AND my 4 year old Dell Axim x50v (which never has the syncing problems that WM5 & WM6 & is still more powerful than 99% of what's available on the market!???).

Frankie1
04-21-2008, 03:06 PM
Versatility
My brother has an iPhone and I have a Windows Mobile Devices (HTC Universal, XDA Flame, and an XDA iis) it would suffice it to day that I love large screens. At any rate living with my brother gives me plenty of time to poke around on the iPhone and enjoy the slick interface. On first impression I definitely wanted to get one but for me the device was just impractical; here are a few scenarios.

• I text a lot (using the generous keyboard on my HTC Universal or my XDA iis) and recently I was texting with a business partner while I was on the run. One of my other partners was left out of the loop and wanted a summary of our conversation. Not having the time to spare I simply copied the entire text conversation (this is possible with WM 6.1) which included about 50 messages. I pasted the conversation in an email and sent it directly to him.

• I have many hobbies and my WM device is able to support those hobbies. One of those being Wireless Technology: Install packet sniffer, put my NIC in promiscuous mode, and go to Starbucks.

• My buddy needs help with one of his computers at his store: I fire-up the RDP application on my device and get him squared away, while I’m walking the mall. If it takes a while, I find a place to sit and whip out my always ready, foldable, super-slim, stowaway keyboard.

• Hmm, I think the search bar on my home screen takes up too much space: Go to registry editor, modify a regkey, and shirnk the bar a little bit. Heck, while I’m at it let me redirect the search bar to use Google.

• Want to feel connected: Let me make my entire home screen to be summarized articles from PocketPCThoughts.com and I want them to updates every 20 minutes, and let me make the headers be red… no orange.

• On a tight budget this week: lets load up my financial information on my home screen, with my running balance, and my last 10 transaction.

I know many of you don’t use these features, and I also can go a month without using anything I mentioned, but I want to know that I have the ability to.
Most cars go at least 120mph these days, even though we rarely might, but it’s good to know that we can go that fast if we needed to, or more importantly if we wanted to. So, it all boils down to VERSATILITY for me.

BudPritchard
04-21-2008, 03:36 PM
If you are on a business trip, vacation, etc; if the battery dies or is exhausted, you can't put in an extra charged battery.

Lack of storage card means no backups. Backup via internet or data plan won't work. I don't use or need a data plan.

One of my main hardware rules is: "Replacable battery required!"

aristoBrat
04-21-2008, 03:44 PM
Also, you said he didn't get the wifi comment right. So the iphone <i>does</i> support 802.11g/e? I only see b/g support on Apple's site.
From this and his prior article, it looks like he thinks the iPhone only has 802.11b and BlueTooth 1.2.

The iPhone comes with Bluetooth 1.2, not 2.0 and Wi-Fi 802.11 b, not b/g. Oh well…

From Apple's iPhone 'Tech Specs':
http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html

Wireless data

* Wi-Fi (802.11b/g)
* EDGE
* Bluetooth 2.0+EDR

Pete Paxton
04-21-2008, 03:55 PM
I was concerned about the replaceable battery thing too but my battery life on my iPhone lasts so long that when I travel it's never been an issue. I could easily go two to three days but I bought a travel charger and just charge it during the night. Works great.

unxmully
04-21-2008, 04:30 PM
From this and his prior article, it looks like he thinks the iPhone only has 802.11b and BlueTooth 1.2.
...
From Apple's iPhone 'Tech Specs':
http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html

How dare you let the facts get in the way of a good anti-iPhone rant!

unxmully
04-21-2008, 04:35 PM
Versatility

One of the nicest WM features, as I just found, is Active Sync's ability to delete all of the contacts off your phone when you set up a new pairing. That one just had me rolling on the floor laughing.

Just imagine the fun I'm going to have working out how to get all of those contacts back into Outlook so I can re-synch them back onto my phone. It's a shame it's not winter; the long nights would just fly by with that little job to do.

aristoBrat
04-21-2008, 04:50 PM
How dare you let the facts get in the way of a good anti-iPhone rant!
It's still a good rant. Although personally, were I to post something that I knew would be as controversial as that, I hope I wouldn't make simple mistakes on basic "tech specs".

andyb
04-21-2008, 05:08 PM
It's still a good rant. Although personally, were I to post something that I knew would be as controversial as that, I hope I wouldn't make simple mistakes on basic "tech specs".

It's one of the worst articles I've ever read. Or at least the worst since that other insufferably smug anti-iPhone one posted here last week.

Most of the things he complains about are hardware-related and bear no comparison with the features of Windows Mobile. No GPS? No flash? No front camera? My HTC Touch is exactly the same.

Jeff_R
04-21-2008, 05:38 PM
I think it's a pity when people feel that their usage patterns can dictate what's right for others. Let's face it, there are people out there for whom a cell phone that has no functionality greater than their cordless phone at home is just right. So horses for courses...

For me, I can certainly see the appeal of the iPhone, and there are elements that I wish WinMo included (a good browser, multi-touch). However, I see the iPhone as a brilliant phone/web browser, and I *personally* need more. I co-own a film production company, and my WinMo phone lets me do business work on the move; cut/paste, office apps, etc. are all a vital part of my day. So right now, the iPhone doesn't suit my needs. I use an HTC Touch, but the keyboard lack is annoying me (another iPhone strike for me), so I'll likely look at the Sony X1 when it comes out. Integrated GPS would be fantastic as well, which the X1 offers.

If the iPhone ends up with 3G, an integrated keyboard, and internal GPS, and the software solutions expand, I'll look at it. In tech, I look for abilities that suit my need, and I don't really care what brand is on it. Right now, WinMo is the answer for me. Next year, it might be iPhone. Or Android.

virain
04-21-2008, 06:22 PM
Looks about right :)
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Rocco Augusto
04-21-2008, 06:46 PM
If you're smart enough to use a WinMo Pro device, you're definitely smart enough to jailbreak an iPhone.

If memory serves correct, Apple has stated that jailbreaking your phone voids your warranty and they will not service hacked devices. Being smart enough to jailbreak your iPhone and actually having jailbreak be an official feature from Apple are two separate things. I believe this was the point that was being made earlier.

I'm not sure why Apple has crippled the bluetooth functionality of the device, perhaps to satisfy At&T?

Nah, I doubt it was AT&T's doing. If it was, then all Bluetooth devices they released would be crippled in this same way. A huge chunk of AT&T's business comes from selling accessories along with the handsets. It would just be foolish to cripple your product and in turn hurt your accessory business as well.

Not only does it hurt their accessory business, it also hurts their sales staff. I know when I worked for AT&T, we received anywhere from 10%-25% of all accessory sales. Shooting your employees in the foot in such a way where it actually affects their paychecks just makes your sales staff not want to sell your product and in turn cuts into your overall profit.

1) iPHONE does NOT lock up. It is a PHONE. It should at least do that well AND IT DOES! I have tried several WM phones (AT&T 8125, Tilt, Treo 750) & ALL of them are underpowered & hence, they lock up / freeze all the time.

The iPhone, just like any other phone, does in fact lock up. As a web developer I have to develop sites that work on all mainstream browsers, and the iPhone browser is now part of the mainstream. On several occasions when the handset was first released there were times when the device would lag and even lock up.

This isn't anything against Apple or the iPhone, it is just a simple fact of the nature of electronics devices such as phones. At the end of the day, the iPhone is still just a tiny computer and is subject to all the flaws that all computers suffer from.

4) Too many Microsoft paid MVP's make excuses (30 of them in this article) for WM. Excuse away the need for change on WM part?

Really? :rolleyes:

This piece was nothing more than an opinion piece. That's it. Plain and simple. The opinion of one man.

Whether you agree with the opinion or not is your choice, but to make the generalized statement that you made is no different than what the person who wrote the article did. You stated your opinion ;)

And for the record, while I am not an MVP, I have never heard of MVP's being on Microsoft's payroll or being paid to write articles. What I do here and what Mike did before me and what Pete just did when he wrote this article and what our terrific staff does everyday here and what Chris and his staff at Mobility Site do there isn't about money, it is about our love for the products we write about and our love for our communities. :D

I was concerned about the replaceable battery thing too but my battery life on my iPhone lasts so long that when I travel it's never been an issue. I could easily go two to three days but I bought a travel charger and just charge it during the night. Works great.

This is the one area where I disagree with everyone, including the iPhone crowd, and feel Apple did right by it's consumers. Not including 3G on the iPhone allowed users to get far better battery life times then there would have been with 3G connectivity on the handset. Sure I think that it is a little bit crazy that they do not give you the option of purchasing another battery to swap out when you want, but imagine them doing that while also giving you 3G radio abilities! You're handset wouldn't make it a full day without needing to be charged again. That would just drive consumers batty! :)

Looks about right :)

The iWitch part was hilarious :)

donc504
04-21-2008, 08:21 PM
I think it's a pity when people feel that their usage patterns can dictate what's right for others. Let's face it, there are people out there for whom a cell phone that has no functionality greater than their cordless phone at home is just right. So horses for courses...


Couldn't agree more. Just because one person uses a particular feature doesn't mean everyone else does. And pointing out all the foibles of one device while ignoring the problems of another is just as bad. There are certainly features that WinMo has and the iPhone doesn't but it goes both ways, indeed some of the earlier comments cover this.
I have owned three WinMo devices since 2002 (a Toshiba e740, a Fujitsu-Siemens N560 and the iPAQ) and an iPhone since November. I can only talk of my experience but the iPhone has been rock solid whereas I can expect regular soft resets on WinMo devices. Why would I want a phone powered by WinMo when it struggles powering a PDA? ActiveSync is a pain but then who would have thought that WMDC users would look back wistfully at it?
Some of the problems are not entirely MS' fault but the hardware suppliers. Since 2002 I have had one firmware update for a WinMo device (and that happened a month after I bought the e740) and I have never received an OS update (and the recent HP announcement suggests this experience will continue). But all of these were expensive, top of the range devices, where was the support? My iPhone cost less than the N560 but has had three updates already and a fourth will come in June.
I can't believe my ears when people suggest that getting updates are a bad thing and that therefore the device must be rubbish. N560 owners had to wait 18 months for FSC to provide a fix for slow GPS fixes. Too often WinMo devices have slow processors, no hardware video acceleration, not enough memory.
My iPAQ is probably one of the most powerful WinMo devices out today but video playback is not as good as on my iPhone because it can't keep up with the bitrates, can't take advantage of the VGA screen or the newer codecs whereas the iPhone has hardware acceleration that the software takes advantage of. To illustrate this, when I rip a DVD for WinMo I use DivX, 320x240 res, 400kbps video. For the iPhone it is H.264, 640x480 res, 500kbps video. Anything more on the N560 or iPAQ means running the CPU flat out, with the N560 that would empty the battery in about 2.5 hours. The iPhone usually lasts at least twice as long (and without the huge battery on the iPAQ).
Personally I would have thought there is one feature that even the most ardent WinMo fan would love the iPhone for, getting Microsoft out of its comfort zone and forcing it to come up with some innovative products.
The iPhone definitely isn't perfect, I wish it had better bluetooth profile support (especially for my bluetooth keyboard), 3G hardware and some of the software available to WinMo devices (I can't wait to see what the software developers come up with in June) but anyone hoping for a perfect single device is going to be a long wait... It will never arrive, you either need to have a device that will do the main things you want to do well or carry two... ;-)

Russ Smith
04-21-2008, 10:53 PM
If you're smart enough to use a WinMo Pro device, you're definitely smart enough to jailbreak an iPhone. The process takes less than a minute with ZiPhone. Once you're done, it's a lot easier to install apps on your iPhone than it is to install apps on a WinMo Pro device.

There's a centralized repository for the apps and it even tells you when there's updates available for your installed apps. Wouldn't you love to see that kind of functionality on WinMo? I know I certainly would.

Last item first: No, I would most assuredly not want a "central repository" for software. The reason is that the one who controls the repository basically controls what you can and can't put on your machine.

First item last: The problem is that you have to. Sure, I did my own Hackintosh and used a cooked ROM on my hx4700 so I'm not opposed to hacking (in the old sense of the word) my soft- and hard-ware, but I shouldn't have to do so just to get basic functionality.

Apple equipment is generally quite easy to use for the purposes that Apple intends. Apple chooses a very small set of hardware (which makes designing software for such a small set easier) and creates software that does a specific set of functions very well (on that hardware). One consequence is that functionality is circumscribed when compared to more flexible (but often less simple) OS/hardware combinations. Basically, if you want to do what Apple thinks you want to do, you're fine. If you want to range about, get ready for a bit of work.

For me, flexibility trumps simplicity (I like ease of use, but I'll give a little to get more possible uses.) so Apple's design philosophy doesn't really work for me.

peterf
04-22-2008, 12:11 AM
FINALLY a windows mobile vs iPhone article that favors Windows Mobile on a WINDOWS MOBILE SITE!
I was growing tired of all those iPhone ads.

MattMojo
04-22-2008, 06:26 PM
Anyone here who says WM sucks because their Treo screws up has no room to complain --- Treos such not WM, they always have.

You want Iphone experience on WM easy --> SPB Mobile Shell --- done!

SPB makes some of the greatest mobile software around period and Mobile Shell is paramount to everything a smartphone needs. All you WM users download the trial and you will see what I am talking about.

The Iphone is a great device but it will never be a true enterprise device --- I don't even think Apple was targeting those people.

To be classified a smartphone it MUST have file management abilities (file explorer in WM) period.

The greatest and worst thing about WM is the fact (just like desktop windows) it completely relies on third party devs ---- which make great software and crappy software.

I currently use a Samsung I760 + SPB pocket plus 4 + SPB Mobile Shell 2 and it never locks up and runs fast as any device I have seen.

Mojo

jngold_me
04-22-2008, 10:25 PM
Anyone here who says WM sucks because their Treo screws up has no room to complain --- Treos such not WM, they always have.

Huh?

You want Iphone experience on WM easy --> SPB Mobile Shell --- done!

Huh? What happens when you leave the shell? I will tell you...you into native Windows Mobile. Not really an iPhone experience. Interface consistency is the key. That's part of the reason why HTC's touch flo is nice but is not enough.

The Iphone is a great device but it will never be a true enterprise device --- I don't even think Apple was targeting those people.

I don't think so. Throw on Exchange Sync, and you will see more iPhones in the corporate space. Do they need to dominate that particular space, of course not.

The greatest and worst thing about WM is the fact (just like desktop windows) it completely relies on third party devs ---- which make great software and crappy software.

This I agree with.

I currently use a Samsung I760 + SPB pocket plus 4 + SPB Mobile Shell 2 and it never locks up and runs fast as any device I have seen.


Not quite sure what applications you have loaded but anyone who says their WM device "Never" locks up I have a hard time believing. It's the nature of the OS and even the best coded applications can cause memory leaks, conflict with other processes, etc.

Mikey
04-22-2008, 10:59 PM
The iPhone, just like any other phone, does in fact lock up. As a web developer I have to develop sites that work on all mainstream browsers, and the iPhone browser is now part of the mainstream. On several occasions when the handset was first released there were times when the device would lag and even lock up.

This isn't anything against Apple or the iPhone, it is just a simple fact of the nature of electronics devices such as phones. At the end of the day, the iPhone is still just a tiny computer and is subject to all the flaws that all computers suffer from.



Really? :rolleyes:

This piece was nothing more than an opinion piece. That's it. Plain and simple. The opinion of one man.

Whether you agree with the opinion or not is your choice, but to make the generalized statement that you made is no different than what the person who wrote the article did. You stated your opinion ;)

And for the record, while I am not an MVP, I have never heard of MVP's being on Microsoft's payroll or being paid to write articles. What I do here and what Mike did before me and what Pete just did when he wrote this article and what our terrific staff does everyday here and what Chris and his staff at Mobility Site do there isn't about money, it is about our love for the products we write about and our love for our communities. :D



Rocco, my best friend's iPHONE has never locked up in my presence. All of the WM phones I've tried lock up constantly, with plenty of memory left over, as I load everything I can on the flash memory card. I do not feel there is a WM solution out there that competes with the iPHONE or the BB Curve/Pearl on reliability as a phone 1st, email 2nd, then PDA. Instead of knocking my rant, where's the help from a managing editor from this site. I wanted to switch to WM, have tried 3 different times, but the locking up & bugs are too much. These bugs do not exist on my BB or my buddy's iPHONE.

As for your whole "opinion" rant on me, that's all it is, "my opinion", if you don't like it, don't read it. This topic began by asking what we think. I said what I thought & a managing editor of the site's going to bust on me for it? Come on!!! I read the site daily because I too enjoy WM news. Contrary to the tone of your rant on my post, there are monetary benefits / perks to being an MVP, & rarely does an MVP bust on Microsoft, even when it is warranted. Instead, they normally bust on iPHONE, etc. I believe the iPHONE is great because it raises the bar. Tell me this, do you disagree with my article that my Dell Axim x50v is still one of the fastest devices available with one of the best screens? Do you think anything really innovative has come out since WM2003SE? Do you think Apple will still be offering an iPHONE 4 years from now that performs slower than those on the market today? Where's the WM device with 8GB+ built-in storage, at least 624 processor, VGA screen, 2000 mah battery, that competes with Apple for $400?

Don't be so quick to take parts of my post out of context. See 1st to understand where I was coming from. Thanks for all your help! Mike

Rocco Augusto
04-23-2008, 04:41 AM
Mikey I'm sorry if you feel as though I was dropping the hammer on you as that was not my intent. In fact I would never drop the hammer or bust on any of our readers - hence the over excessive use of the almighty emoticon.

What I was trying to do was remind everyone reading this thread that this was nothing more than an opinion piece of one person and shouldn't be taken in such a way that would warrant such defensive and borderline aggressive responses that I was seeing.

As for your "don't like it, don't read it response", it is my job as Managing Editor to make sure that our readers are not only provided with top notch news postings, articles and reviews - but it is also my job to make sure that conversations that take place in our forums are civil which this thread was slowly drifting away from being. :)

As for our MVP's here... well I have seen them all openly call out Microsoft on what they should be doing or what they are doing wrong all the time. It was one of the reasons I kept coming back here as a reader and user of Windows Mobile Standard devices. That is what we do, and by golly I think we're pretty good at it. :D

So once again, I apologize if you feel I was picking on you, that was not the intention at all. I was just adding my two cents to this discussion and defuse what I felt was a situation that was going to drift out of control. As for this thread, I feel it has run it's course so I'm closing it up. ;)