i-mate Ultimate Spec Sheets Revealed

[Darius Wey]

<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://foro.todopocketpc.com/showthread.php?t=134553' target='_blank'>http://foro.todopocketpc.com/showth...ad.php?t=134553</a><br /><br /></div><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20070221-9150specsheet.jpg" /><br /><br />You know the i-mate Ultimate specs inside out by now, although screen sizes and device dimensions may still be a bit of a blur - so, head over to <a href="http://foro.todopocketpc.com/showthread.php?t=134553">Todo Pocket PC</a> and check out the informative spec sheets of all five Ultimate devices. In a nutshell, the 8150 and 9150 sport 2.6" touch screens, the 5150 and 6150 sport slightly larger 2.8" touch screens, and the 7150 adds another inch with a 3.8" touch screen - all in 262K-colour, VGA goodness.<br /><br /><b>Update:</b> Size comparison figure added below. <!><br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20070221-ultsize.jpg" /><br /><br />From left, 5150 to 9150.

[Gator5000e]

Those are definitely sweet, but the joy stick kills the deal for me. Never again will I buy a smartphone with a joy stick. I hated the one on the 2125.

[saru83]

Those are definitely sweet, but the joy stick kills the deal for me. Never again will I buy a smartphone with a joy stick. I hated the one on the 2125.

the 7150 &amp; the 9150 are not joystick ;)

[cab124]

Wellllll.....will it be one of these bad boys or will it be the Toshiba G900???

I hope one of these makes it to the US before 2009.

[ADBrown]

You know, I thought that the 9150 would turn out to be huge, but when you run those numbers, its footprint is actually smaller than the Cingular 3125, and it's only about .15 thicker than it to boot. Alright, now I want one of those in addition to one of the 7150s. And fries, please. :devilboy:

[ricksfiona]

Wow, the 7150 looks big... But it's actually smaller than my wallet... Any word on getting these into the U.S.? Is T-Mo's 3G compatible with the frequencies on it?

[cslaughtermd]

They certainly look nice, especially with all of that VGA goodness, but where is the GPS?

[WyattEarp]

Those look awesome. I think I want one or two. Finally, VGA on a WM phone that does not skimp on the rest of the hardware.

[happyloman]

They certainly look nice, especially with all of that VGA goodness, but where is the GPS?

Yeah.. what a dealbreaker!

Nice pdas, otherwise.

[bnycastro]

the specs are impressive. now we have to wait for the execution of these devices. hope imate is up to the task and I hope we see these devices in Asia too.

[ADBrown]

Wow, the 7150 looks big... But it's actually smaller than my wallet... Any word on getting these into the U.S.? Is T-Mo's 3G compatible with the frequencies on it?

The spec sheets list the devices as having either 850/1900/2100 or 850/1700/2100 for 3G. T-Mobile's network is supposed to be 1700/2100, so these appear likely to be the very first devices that support it.

[ultraman]

Any word when will those device will be available?

[netboy]

is Toshiba smoking something when they decided to put single band 2100 HSDPA on G900? while all Imate stuffs got VGA and tri-band 850/1900/2100 HSDPA!
to me, Imate stuffs is kicking HTC ass! make u woner who is dumping who!

[saru83]

Any word when will those device will be available?

it was mentioned mid this year, so i would say June, or max July if they wanna release it on time, i would prefer earlier as the iPhone is coming out in the same timing..

[ricksfiona]

Wow, the 7150 looks big... But it's actually smaller than my wallet... Any word on getting these into the U.S.? Is T-Mo's 3G compatible with the frequencies on it?

The spec sheets list the devices as having either 850/1900/2100 or 850/1700/2100 for 3G. T-Mobile's network is supposed to be 1700/2100, so these appear likely to be the very first devices that support it.

AMEN!!! Finally! Looks like I'm going to pick up the 7150 then... But where is the external LCD? Don't tell me it's underneath the keyboard... Only thing is that I wish the keys were a little more 'bubbly' for easier typing...

[ADBrown]

AMEN!!! Finally! Looks like I'm going to pick up the 7150 then... But where is the external LCD? Don't tell me it's underneath the keyboard... Only thing is that I wish the keys were a little more 'bubbly' for easier typing...

These show what appears to be it, at least placement-wise, though I'm not sure that it's a fully functional prototype. And it's not an LCD, but rather an OLED.

http://www.mobilmania.sk/Files/Obrazky/2007/3GSM-2007/Upravene/I-Mate/Ultimate-7150/p1080376.jpg

http://www.mobilmania.sk/Files/Obrazky/2007/3GSM-2007/Upravene/I-Mate/Ultimate-7150/p1080413.jpg

[ricksfiona]

AMEN!!! Finally! Looks like I'm going to pick up the 7150 then... But where is the external LCD? Don't tell me it's underneath the keyboard... Only thing is that I wish the keys were a little more 'bubbly' for easier typing...

These show what appears to be it, at least placement-wise, though I'm not sure that it's a fully functional prototype. And it's not an LCD, but rather an OLED.

http://www.mobilmania.sk/Files/Obrazky/2007/3GSM-2007/Upravene/I-Mate/Ultimate-7150/p1080376.jpg

http://www.mobilmania.sk/Files/Obrazky/2007/3GSM-2007/Upravene/I-Mate/Ultimate-7150/p1080413.jpg

I'm assuming that just a sticker for demonstration purposes...

Also, I saw that the Treo 750v supports UMTS 2100. Does that mean it will work on T-Mobile's 3G network? 3G support on T-Mobile's network is the ONLY thing holding me back on the Treo 750v.

[Jason Lee]

I think it is very cool that all these devices have the exact same specs. Now we are free to choose or form factor and not worry about missing on functionality! :D

[ADBrown]

I'm assuming that just a sticker for demonstration purposes...

That's what I thought at first too, but if you look at the other images on that site (linked to from here a few days ago), it doesn't appear to be stuck on, or for there to be anything protruding from the case there, which rather baffled me.

Also, I saw that the Treo 750v supports UMTS 2100. Does that mean it will work on T-Mobile's 3G network? 3G support on T-Mobile's network is the ONLY thing holding me back on the Treo 750v.

No, that's 2100 solely for overseas 3G networks. To support T-Mobile it has to have both 1700 and 2100.

[virain]

So many options! What should I choose? Should I have 850/1700/2100 or 900/1900/2100 HSDPA/UMTS? Does a camera support video call (I'm hearing WM6 will? And it looks like GPS is out of style, isn't it? But phones do look cute! :lol:
P.S. By the way, you can preorder them already! here's a link to one of them: http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=146095

[Gerard]

That's what I thought at first too, but if you look at the other images on that site (linked to from here a few days ago), it doesn't appear to be stuck on, or for there to be anything protruding from the case there, which rather baffled me.


Since the display (?) is showing the same numbers in every picture, and I doubt they were all taken in the same minute - 3:36 - it seems likely these are a water decal or somehow painted-on then clear coated to render the surface smooth. I'd guess a water decal. Very thin. Sony's littlest MP3 players use OLED displays. I've not seen one in hand, but the ads look like numbers and words are sort of embedded in the plastic, as though a permanent part of the player. Of course they're not, they change all the time, so this sort of OLED *might* be what we're seeing, possibly, though it seems doubtful on a metallic finish.

[Muntasser]

wow, these are :devilboy: :devilboy: and quick to boot:D

Very pleased with this new crop of devices - lets see if iMate pulls through and delivers sometime before the end of '07/.

[Muntasser]

wowzers! 11mm or a slider!!!
Decisions Decisions!

at this stage looks like i'm going to upgrade to either the 5150 slider or the sleek 8150/. I'm leaning towards the 8150 atm.

I love how all the specs are the same regardless of model. =)

I don't think I will love the price however =\

edit - has anyone used a 2.6" screen here? Maybe the 9150 is worth a look too!

too many choices!

[saru83]

has anyone used a 2.6" screen here? Maybe the 9150 is worth a look too!

too many choices!

i used a 2.7" on the Atom, &amp; it was okay, don't think 2.6 would be too bad.. keep in mind its VGA, 8150 &amp; 9150 would have the sharpest screen of all 5 ;)

[Paragon]

I'm having a bit of a problem with some of the dimensions, in particular the 7150 is listed as 110mm long. I just measured my 6700 which has a 2.8" screen, not a 3.8" and it is just under 110mm? I'm having a bit of a chore fitting a 3.8" screen into the 7150's dimensions....or am I confused?

Dave

[Darius Wey]

I'm having a bit of a problem with some of the dimensions, in particular the 7150 is listed as 110mm long. I just measured my 6700 which has a 2.8" screen, not a 3.8" and it is just under 110mm? I'm having a bit of a chore fitting a 3.8" screen into the 7150's dimensions....or am I confused?

The 7150 is 20mm wider than the PPC-6700 and there also appears to be a shorter gap between the edges of the screen and the edges of the device, so all that considered, a 3.8" should be able to fit in the 7150's stated dimensions. My two cents, anyway.

[Paragon]

I'm having a bit of a problem with some of the dimensions, in particular the 7150 is listed as 110mm long. I just measured my 6700 which has a 2.8" screen, not a 3.8" and it is just under 110mm? I'm having a bit of a chore fitting a 3.8" screen into the 7150's dimensions....or am I confused?

The 7150 is 20mm wider than the PPC-6700 and there also appears to be a shorter gap between the edges of the screen and the edges of the device, so all that considered, a 3.8" should be able to fit in the 7150's stated dimensions. My two cents, anyway.

Well, to put all that to the test I took a picture of a 7150 (http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1107812) and resized it so the screen was 3.8" and it measure 130mm long. A full 2cm longer than stated.

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[saru83]

I'm having a bit of a problem with some of the dimensions, in particular the 7150 is listed as 110mm long. I just measured my 6700 which has a 2.8" screen, not a 3.8" and it is just under 110mm? I'm having a bit of a chore fitting a 3.8" screen into the 7150's dimensions....or am I confused?

The 7150 is 20mm wider than the PPC-6700 and there also appears to be a shorter gap between the edges of the screen and the edges of the device, so all that considered, a 3.8" should be able to fit in the 7150's stated dimensions. My two cents, anyway.

Well, to put all that to the test I took a picture of a 7150 (http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1107812) and resized it so the screen was 3.8" and it measure 130mm long. A full 2cm longer than stated.

Dave[/url]

Sorry bro, i don't think you are right, i hand drawn the exact measurements on paper including the screen &amp; it seems to me it is VERY possible that the information i-mate provided is fully attainable.

Check it out at the following link:

http://sarwatmdjamaluddin.i8.com/PIC-0738.jpg

i included imate Jasjar, Nokia E90 &amp; my actual OQO

;)

[Paragon]

What the hell is that? Sorry, I don't see any dimensions, or anything. A few rectangles is all.

I just took the picture, resized it so the screen was the proper size for reference purposes, then measured the length. Seems pretty uncomplicated, and dependable to me.

[saru83]

I don't see any dimensions, or anything. A few rectangles is all.


i guess u aware of the dimensions already, 110*74*18. &amp; the drawing is the exact measurement of the 7150, if u do it this way, you will get to the same thing, but resizing a completely different phone does not make sense to me, if the screen size is bigger that does not mean the internal hardware components are bigger, thats basically what u did with ur solution.

[saru83]

then measured the length

i included another picture with measurements for your reference, u might wanna check it out.

http://sarwatmdjamaluddin.i8.com/PIC-0739.jpg

[Paragon]

, but resizing a completely different phone does not make sense to me.

Sorry saru83, I'm confused. The picture I resized is of a 7150. By resizing it keeps all the other dimension proportionate, right?

Dave

[Paragon]

then measured the length

i included another picture with measurements for your reference, u might wanna check it out.

http://sarwatmdjamaluddin.i8.com/PIC-0739.jpg

Sorry, I can't get there from here. :)

[saru83]

Sorry, I can't get there from here. :)

is the page not loading? i'll post it again anyway. http://sarwatmdjamaluddin.i8.com/PIC-0739.jpg

[Paragon]

Here's the messages I'm getting

http://www.paragon-designs.com/Media/untitled.bmp

[saru83]

Here's the messages I'm getting

http://www.paragon-designs.com/Media/untitled.bmp

i uploaded it on flickr, it should work there.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/34794171@N00/401322781/

[Paragon]

Yeah, I know, I get that, but does your drawing keep the same proportions that enlarging the picture does? Do you have the same space around the screen for buttons, speaker, hinges and so on. It's one thing to fit the screen in, but it's another to keep ALL the proper proportions.
It's an ACTUAL picture and I measured it in ACTUAL LIFE size.

I think we will get further if we find fault with the picture, and it being resized.

Dave

[Janak Parekh]

Well, to put all that to the test I took a picture of a 7150 (http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1107812) and resized it so the screen was 3.8" and it measure 130mm long. A full 2cm longer than stated.
The first pic? The screen is at an angle in the z dimension, so measuring 3.8" diagonally is going to be rather difficult.

--janak

[Paragon]

Well, to put all that to the test I took a picture of a 7150 (http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1107812) and resized it so the screen was 3.8" and it measure 130mm long. A full 2cm longer than stated.
The first pic? The screen is at an angle in the z dimension, so measuring 3.8" diagonally is going to be rather difficult.

--janak

Yeah, I thought about that, Janak, but the angle doesn't seem to be anywhere near enough to have a measurable effect on the size.

[Janak Parekh]

Yeah, I thought about that, Janak, but the angle doesn't seem to be anywhere near enough to have a measurable effect on the size.
I'm not so sure. It looks pretty significant to me (10-20 degrees?), possibly enough to compensate for the size discussion here. Anyway, my 2 cents, I don't have the energy to pursue this further. ;)

--janak

[Paragon]

Ok, explain this then.

Check out the pictures Phonearna.com have posted comparing the 7150 and 8150 to the K-Jam. The K-Jam is 108mm long yet it is shorter than the 8150 which iMate lists at 94mm. The K-Jam is dwarfed by the 7150...again the k-Jam is 108mm, and iMate state the 7150 is 110mm long......oooops.

http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/3GSM-2007-On-site-Coverage-article-a_1773-p_8.html

[mcq3000]

omg, wow, these phones are awesome, my god, why am I still in cdma land, once my contract is up I am switching for good, VGA out? VGA Screen? 520MHZ CPU, 128MB RAM! Its about freaking time a REAL UPGRADE to Wm5 devices came out. Only thing its missing is GPS but I can stillc arry by bluetooth gps stick around.

Ok so the only difference between all the Imate Ultimates is Screen size right and the form factors? So the 6150, 7150 and 8150 are all the same except for keyboard layout and form factors?

Anyone know if these devices have CIR and where the IR port is located on these?

[saru83]

Ok, explain this then.

Check out the pictures Phonearna.com have posted comparing the 7150 and 8150 to the K-Jam. The K-Jam is 108mm long yet it is shorter than the 8150 which iMate lists at 94mm. The K-Jam is dwarfed by the 7150...again the k-Jam is 108mm, and iMate state the 7150 is 110mm long......oooops.

http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/3GSM-2007-On-site-Coverage-article-a_1773-p_8.html

ya, i am kinda disappointed about the comparison pix, HOPE the production unit "7150" would be smaller "as my initial expectations" :roll:

[Paragon]

ya, i am kinda disappointed about the comparison pix, HOPE the production unit "7150" would be smaller "as my initial expectations" :roll:

Yeah, I know.

I can't see the end product being any different though. I just can't see them showing a device that is substantially bigger at a show. Given the importance of size in the mobile industry I just can't see them using a bigger device.....AND allowing comparison pictures to be taken.

Dave