HTC Wizard Appears at Cingular

[Darius Wey]

<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www-xl.cingularextras.com/fuel/enduser/portal/endUserHTMLSelectPhone?makeName=htc&dc=0' target='_blank'>http://www-xl.cingularextras.com/fu...keName=htc&dc=0</a><br /><br /></div><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20051023-Wizard.jpg" /><br /><br />A picture is worth a thousand words. Above you'll notice the HTC 8100/8125, which appears to be based on the HTC Wizard 100/110 (with and without a camera). There's also an entry for the HTC 2100/2125, which is based on the HTC Tornado (better known as the Orange C600 Smartphone). No word yet on when these units will start selling, though given Cingular's little slip, I can't imagine it being too much longer. More at <a href="http://www-xl.cingularextras.com/fuel/enduser/portal/endUserHTMLSelectPhone?makeName=htc&dc=0">Cingular</a>.

[dma1965]

Accordig to my Cingular rep, this is supposed to be released in December. She tried to sell us the 6500 series iPaq (to replace our SX66's), but I told her I would not buy a new model PPC phone unless it had Windows Mobile 2005 (persistent storage is the key for me), and she said that Cingular was releasing the HTC Wizard in December.

[Jeff Song]

maybe she was saying that in an attempt to convince you to buy the 6500s NOW 8O

[IpaqMan2]

Anyone have any clue as to what the specs may be? Is this going to be much like the the PPC-6700?

[Darius Wey]

Anyone have any clue as to what the specs may be? Is this going to be much like the the PPC-6700?

It's based on the HTC Wizard, so as long as Cingular haven't made any minor tweaks to it (which is otherwise highly unlikely), then it should feature a TI OMAP 200MHz processor, 64MB RAM, 128MB ROM, miniSD, quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE support, Infrared, 802.11b/g Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, a slide-out QWERTY keyboard, a 2.8" QVGA screen, a 1.3MP camera (on the camera-enabled models), and Windows Mobile 5.0. In some ways, it is similar to the PPC-6700 (HTC Apache), though the latter features a much faster processor (416MHz) and different cellular network support (namely, CDMA 800/1900 with 1xRTT/EVDO capabilities).

[urologyhealth]

I'm still not clear with all the hype and the reviews why I should want to exchange my SIEMENS SX66 for this unit.

1.Windows mobile 5--seems to be slower, less available memory despite the fact a lot goes to ROM. It seems confusing how you add programs and where you add them.
2.The Keyboard slide out we have now-the new one is bigger and bulkier.
3.WM5--seems to have bugs--especially with ACtive Sync 4.
4. mini-sd requires a new investment to replace sd we currently have.
5.lots of programs not yet ready for use with new OS.
6. I haven't heard much about newer bluetooth to say it's better than what I have with latest updates from SX66 STandardization Project

I'd like to hear read advances

Just my thoughts

[PdaAddict]

I agree with the comment above about SX66. How is HTC Wizard is better? Can someone please explain the reasoning for using the TI OMAP 850, which actually runs at 195 not 200 MHZ! And why would anyone want to buy a mini-sd card after investing in SD and CF cards? I think most of us will stick with whatever we have as all of these so-called new decices are a huge dissapointment: Treo-700, Apache, Wizard, HP 6500/6715. At this point I would onlu consider Mio A701 or HTC Universal.

[TheZodiac]

Ive seen this exact page (well, similar, referring to an HTC brand) on Tmobile while searching for random stuff.

[Ed Hansberry]

It seems confusing how you add programs and where you add them.
not at all. think of ROM like your PC's hard drive and RAM as RAM. that's it. 100% of installs go on your HD (ROM or a storage card if desired) and RAM is only good for processing data, just like your PC.

[dma1965]

Two words sum it up for me - Persistent Storage. This is something that should have happened years ago.

[QYV]

I'm still not clear with all the hype and the reviews why I should want to exchange my SIEMENS SX66 for this unit.

1.Windows mobile 5--seems to be slower, less available memory despite the fact a lot goes to ROM. It seems confusing how you add programs and where you add them.
2.The Keyboard slide out we have now-the new one is bigger and bulkier.
3.WM5--seems to have bugs--especially with ACtive Sync 4.
4. mini-sd requires a new investment to replace sd we currently have.
5.lots of programs not yet ready for use with new OS.
6. I haven't heard much about newer bluetooth to say it's better than what I have with latest updates from SX66 STandardization Project

Just my thoughts

1.) Windows Mobile 5 devices I've used have been at least as fast as WM 2003 devices. The memory is easy to figure out when you start installing things, and having it more like a real PC (RAM = RAM, ROM = hard drive) actually makes more sense than the old way.

2.) You are ignoring a very important point - the larger size of the keyboard makes it dramatically more usable. I can't stand the incredibly tiny membrane keyboard of the SX66. It's really night and day with the Wizard/Apache. That's the number one reason to upgrade. Not only do you get a larger, better keyboard, but the overall device size is much smaller as well: a killer tradeoff!

3.) Once MS gets their new version of AS 4 out, I'm guessing this won't be a big deal. AS 3.8 is buggy too. :mrgreen: I wouldn't worry about WM 5 being any more buggy than previous versions, from what I've seen on various sites. On the plus side, you get great improvements like persistent storage and far less need to get the stylus out (very important for a keyboarded device).

4.) I saw this same kind of response with the move to SD from CF a few years back. Yes, it's unfortunate when you've invested in peripherals (as I have), but smaller slots mean smaller devices, which is a very good thing. Ultimately, SD memory cards are very easy to sell, and that offsets a lot of the cost right there.

5.) I think this just isn't true. All I've seen on Pocket PC Thoughts for months is how program after program has a WM 5 version, long before we even saw devices released! Unless you know of specific applications you use a lot that aren't compatible, I'm not sure why this is a significant concern.

6.) I don't use Bluetooth much, so nothing to say there.

No offense, but it sounds like you want to be happy with your current device and are trying to come up with reasons to stay happy...of course, since I do the same thing all the time, maybe it's just me reading too much in to what you said... :twisted:

[PdaAddict]

The keyboard maybe great but most of the reviews indicate that Wizard is slow for multimedia type of tasks. So again, I see no point in switching to a slower device no matter how useful the keyboard is. I I need a device with a good keyboard for e-mailing I would go with Blackberry.

[Ed Hansberry]

I need a device with a good keyboard for e-mailing I would go with Blackberry.
As long as you don't need to open attachments. :D

[davetreo300600]

here is additional evidence of the HTCs on the Cingular site:

http://www.cingularextras.com/fuel/enduser/portal/ImageComposerere

[davetreo300600]

that link seems to be corrupted - i will try to get a clean one - here is another that I think is a variation of the one posted on the main story - it lists under Media Mall

http://www-xl.cingularextras.com/fuel/enduser/portal/endUserHTMLSelectPhone?makeName=htc&amp;dc=0

[davetreo300600]

the first link I posted was to Cingular's Mobile Image Composer - got it on Endgadget - but it now seems to have morphed into the Mediai Mall link