New HP iPAQs Released: Updated hx2000 Series and the All-New rx1950

[Darius Wey]

<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF02d/215348-64929-215381.html' target='_blank'>http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/e...929-215381.html</a><br /><br /></div><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050926-NewiPAQs.jpg" /><br /><br />Yes, more HP news to get you through the working week with the release of four new iPAQs. Continue on for a breakdown of the all-new hx2190, hx2490, hx2790, and rx1950. <!><br /><br /><b><u>HP iPAQ hx2190, hx2490, and hx2790</u></b><br />Following the <a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/index.php?action=expand,43229">release of the Windows Mobile 5.0 upgrade for the hx2000 series</a>, HP has just released the hx2190, hx2490, and hx2790. If you haven't already guessed, they are updated versions of the hx2110, hx2410, and hx2750 respectively. But apart from the inclusion of Windows Mobile 5.0, there are some slight hardware differences.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050926-hx2790.jpg" /><br /><br />The <a href="http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF25a/215348-64929-215381-314903-f67-421410.html">hx2190</a> is the low-end model of the hx2000 series, and it features an Intel PXA270 312MHz processor, 64MB RAM, 128MB ROM (note the hx2110 only included 64MB ROM), Bluetooth, IR, CF and SD slots, a 3.5" transflective QVGA (240 x 320) 64K-colour screen, and Windows Mobile 5.0.<br /><br />The <a href="http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF25a/215348-64929-215381-314903-f67-421399.html">hx2490</a> is the mid-range model of the hx2000 series, and it features a faster Intel PXA270 520MHz processor, 64MB RAM, 128MB ROM (again, it's worth noting that the previous hx2410 model only included 64MB ROM), Bluetooth, 802.11b Wi-Fi, CF and SD slots, a 3.5" transflective QVGA (240 x 320) 64K-colour screen, and Windows Mobile 5.0.<br /><br />At the expense of some RAM, the <a href="http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF25a/215348-64929-215381-314903-f67-421420.html">hx2790</a> now features additional ROM space when put head-to-head with its predecessor, the hx2750. Marketed as the high-end model of the hx2000 series, the hx2790 has been beefed up with an Intel PXA270 624MHz processor, a memory configuration of 64MB RAM and 192MB ROM, Bluetooth, 802.11b Wi-Fi, IR, CF and SD slots, a 3.5" transflective QVGA (240 x 320) 64K-colour screen, and Windows Mobile 5.0.<br /><br />A table detailing the specifications of the hx2000 series from the past and present can be found <a href="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050926-hx2000.jpg">here</a>.<br /><br />The starting price of the hx2000 series is $349.<br /><br /><b><u>HP iPAQ rx1950</u></b><br />We've posted on rx1950 rumours plenty of times before, but those can now be tucked away as the device has just been officially released. It sports a Samsung S3C2442 300MHz processor, a meagre 32MB RAM and 64MB ROM, Wi-Fi, a 3.5" transflective QVGA (240 x 320) 64K-colour screen, an SDIO/MMC slot, an 1100mAh Li-Ion battery, and Windows Mobile 5.0.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/web/2003/wey-20050926-rx1950.jpg" /><br /><br />Sharp-eyed users might notice its stark resemblance to the old iPAQ h4150. Thanks to the exclusion of Bluetooth, the <a href="http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF05a/215348-64929-215381-314903-f89-1132544.html">rx1950</a> will retail for $299.

[Menneisyys]

Only 64M RAM in the hx2790, as opposed to the hx2750? How much of it can actually be used?

[tthiel]

I saw the 1950 for sale at Frys in Phoenix last week. STILL no VGA in the 22XX series?? The Dell X51v is a better deal.

[DavesiPAQ]

This should help you

http://davesipaq.com/vbmcms/images/2795mem2.jpg

[Menneisyys]

This should help you

http://davesipaq.com/vbmcms/images/2795mem2.jpg

Thanks! So, around 32Mbytes free, as in the x51v. :(

I wonder how much RAM is available in the rx1950 :) Your review (http://davesipaq.com/articles/iPAQ_HP_Microsoft_Mobile%205_rx1950/1.html) only says "I have not used it with a lot of memory intensive applications but so far with the limited numbers of applications I have used, it has performed well.", but there're no exact figures...

[Pony99CA]

Thanks! So, around 32Mbytes free, as in the x51v. :(
Unless that 23.71 MB is used by programs that always run during system startup, the figure appears to be closer to 56 MB.

Also, remember that Windows Mobile 5 only uses RAM for program memory, not for storage, so it won't get taken up by data files or program installations.

Steve

[Pony99CA]

Do these models have a vibrating alarm? HP seems to have removed that from the original 2100/2400/2700 series, and it's one of the features I used most on my iPAQ 5550.

Steve

[robert_biggs]

Pathetic devices. Anyone who would order an iPAQ over the Dell Axim X51 line would have to be nuts! I remember DavesiPAQ slamming the X51v release a week ago. I guess he wil have a lot of crow to eat now.

Unless HP has some Ace up their sleeve they are working on (and can release sometime before next Spring), they are going to have a hard time selling any PDAs except at the retail stores where naive customers can't see what Dell has to offer.

Glad I didn't listen to DavesiPAQ. I'll be very happy with my new X51v that arrives this Thursday!

[whydidnt]

Unless that 23.71 MB is used by programs that always run during system startup, the figure appears to be closer to 56 MB.

Well, unless it's different than the rest of the WM devices I've seen, close to 20 MB's is used simply by the OS after reboot. What I can't understand is why the HP only has about 8 MB RAM reserved to start with, while both the JasJar and X51v have around 16 MB's reserved. Does VGA account for the difference? Curious to see available RAM on the standard X51. This, my friends, is how 64 MB RAM equals about 30 MB RAM in WM5 devices, and why some of us feel 64 really isn't enough.

[szamot]

Pathetic devices. Anyone who would order an iPAQ over the Dell Axim X51 line would have to be nuts! I remember DavesiPAQ slamming the X51v release a week ago. I guess he wil have a lot of crow to eat now.

Unless HP has some Ace up their sleeve they are working on (and can release sometime before next Spring), they are going to have a hard time selling any PDAs except at the retail stores where naive customers can't see what Dell has to offer.

Glad I didn't listen to DavesiPAQ. I'll be very happy with my new X51v that arrives this Thursday!

The only ACE they have up their sleeve is the recall letter they will be posting for these devices in a few weeks. You are right HP is pathetic at best with what they are putting out now. You are much better off with DELL.

I think it is fair to assume that HP is writing DavesiPAQ cheque so I am not at all supriced that he loves H(eep) of P(oo) so much.

[Pony99CA]

Pathetic devices. Anyone who would order an iPAQ over the Dell Axim X51 line would have to be nuts!
What do you really think? Personally, I think that people who claim others are nuts without knowing the reasons behind those decisions are nuts.

For example, when did Dell start offering a fingerprint scanner? I use that on my iPAQ 5550 every day; it's a lot easier than having to type in a long password.

Steve

[Menneisyys]

Thanks! So, around 32Mbytes free, as in the x51v. :(
Unless that 23.71 MB is used by programs that always run during system startup, the figure appears to be closer to 56 MB.


The 23M is always taken - as with the 2-10Mbyte with WM2003/SE.

Also, remember that Windows Mobile 5 only uses RAM for program memory, not for storage, so it won't get taken up by data files or program installations.


That's true, but with clever relocation (see for example my relocation tutorials) you can have at most 1-2 Mbytes of storage-class files in RAM. That is, on a, say, x50v, which has 61.75 Mbytes of usable RAM by default (http://www.firstloox.org/VGAppc.htm), you can have around 60 Mbytes of usable dynamic, program RAM. The ~32 Mbyte offered by current 64M WM5 devices is very little, if you take into account the dynamic memory consumption of all popular Today launcher/meter apps (http://pocketpcmag.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=18383) (around 1.3M except for Resco and cLaunch), the huge memory requirements of Web browsers (http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/index.php?action=expand,42026&amp;/pocket_pc_web_browsers_-_the_complete_roundup.htm), image veiwers/editors (http://www.winmobiletech.com/PICVIEWERS/) etc...

[robert_biggs]

when did Dell start offering a fingerprint scanner? I use that on my iPAQ 5550 every day; it's a lot easier than having to type in a long password.

Steve

I'll give you that. For anyone who has to have a fingerprint scanner, the HP is the only choice; for anyone else-the Dell wins hands-down.

[KTamas]

Do these models have a vibrating alarm? HP seems to have removed that from the original 2100/2400/2700 series, and it's one of the features I used most on my iPAQ 5550.

Steve
Vibrating alarms is anything but common in Non-phone edition devices. The reason it is included in the 555x series because it was originally planned to be an PE device, but HP changed its mind (if you check under your battery, you'Ll notice the blank space for SIM Card....)

[Fishie]

when did Dell start offering a fingerprint scanner? I use that on my iPAQ 5550 every day; it's a lot easier than having to type in a long password.

Steve

I'll give you that. For anyone who has to have a fingerprint scanner, the HP is the only choice; for anyone else-the Dell wins hands-down.

Battery life.

[bbarker]

For anyone who has to have a fingerprint scanner, the HP is the only choice; for anyone else-the Dell wins hands-down.

I have and love my X50v. But I'd have picked an HP 2750 if it had been available when I bought my Dell. One reason: the 2700's flip-up screen cover.

[IndyDave]

So anyone that buys a Vette that isn't a Z06 is a fool? A Mustang that isn't a GT?

Not all need or even want VGA on a PDA...more power hungry, more SW problems.

I, for one, don't want, need, or have time to watch videos, play games on a tiny screen. I look up drugs and do calculations, and the hp lineup matches my needs better. I doubt VGA would make my use of a PDA any more efficient. Dell support has had a checkered past (even hp's). However, I can walk into Fry's (insert your regional retailier) tonight and exchange a nonfunctioning 2750 device. Not so with Dell.

Doesn't make you a fool for buying Dell. Just different needs. And I don't care about the cost...if I don't need it, I don't want the overhead. Sometimes the pissing contests here are as bad as those I witnessed at PIC when I was using Palm. If you're happy, well...good for you. You can spend your money any way you wish and I'll do the same.

[billpool]

Pathetic devices. Anyone who would order an iPAQ over the Dell Axim X51 line would have to be nuts!
What do you really think? Personally, I think that people who claim others are nuts without knowing the reasons behind those decisions are nuts.

For example, when did Dell start offering a fingerprint scanner? I use that on my iPAQ 5550 every day; it's a lot easier than having to type in a long password.

Steve

HERE...HERE dude! :lol:

[Mark Johnson]

I doubt VGA would make my use of a PDA any more efficient...


You might be surprised if you gave it a try. I've found that the uasability of a 3.7" VGA screen compared to a 3.7" QVGA screen is dramatically better. For people who with poor eyesight, the improved "sharpness" of the same-sized font make it MUCH easier to read. For people with good eyesight, the ability to sharply display smaller fonts makes the "effective size" of the VGA screen MUCH larger than the QVGA one.

I'd agree that there is a market for people wanting to save a bit on their PDA, so cheaper QVGA screens will be around for awhile. At the same time, people made the same argument that grayscale QVGA was so much cheaper than color QVGA that you'd continue to see black-and-white PDA's for a long time too. That turned out to be wrong though, because anyone who has ever actually used a color PDA would never switch back even if it saved them a lot on the price. It really is very similar with VGA: once you've used it, you'll think QVGA is a laughable joke at just about any price discount.

That's why there are a lot of us looking at HP's release of these QVGA units and we're just floored by the lack of progress. It would be one thing if there was even ONE device in a "pocketable" size from HP with VGA, but there is still only the ginormus brick 4700 series.

[Greg Staten]

Frankly I'm quite interested in the 1950 and will probably pick one up as soon as they show up in the stores in New England. I'm the type of user that HP is probably targeting - I use a PocketPC for basic PDA functions. I don't have it loaded with programs and data. I primarly use the calendar, address book, Zagat, and a couple games for playing on long flights.

And, most critically, I use it as a conduit to keep my work-based Outlook synchronized with my home system (contacts, calendar and notes). My wife loves that our home contacts and calendar is always up to date and I love that I can always see her appointments on my work calendar. And that function alone is often worth carrying an iPaq.

I bought a first generation PocketPC and, when it was damaged on a trip a couple years later, purchased a 1910. (Yes, an "intro" PocketPC, but all I really needed - though with a 256 MB SD card for storage.) As timing would have it, the 1910 died at work last Friday. (Not sure what happened, but it completely shorted out and is basically dead.)

The 1950 couldn't have arrived at a more timely moment. I know the wifi will be a great addition that I'll take advantage of from time to time. I need a PocketPC that is small enough to slip in my front pants pocket and not be a burden. Size matters to me a lot more than high power.

(BTW - I carry a TabletPC at work for meetings and the like. I realized the tiny form factor of the PocketPC really won't cut it for me for heavy-duty business work. I don't need the PocketPC to do everything -- just to do what I need it to do.)

-greg

[Paragon]

Call me nuts. I like the 1950.

Given the choice between a $400 low end Dell and the 1950 at $300, I'll take the 1950. This, bar far is the best form factor that Pocket PC/Windows Mobile has seen....bar none. No it is not a VGA high end processing giant. That is not in its design. It is a very capable low/mid range device.

I just sold my x50v Dell, and I miss it, but no where near as much as I miss my 4150 Ipaq. The day they put a cellular radio in a 1950/4150 form is the day I can quit the Windows Mobile scene smiling with satisfaction. :)

Dave

[bbarker]

Call me nuts. I like the 1950.

Given the choice between a $400 low end Dell and the 1950 at $300, I'll take the 1950. This, bar far is the best form factor that Pocket PC/Windows Mobile has seen....bar none. No it is not a VGA high end processing giant. That is not in its design. It is a very capable low/mid range device.
I agree. It's perfect for people like my wife, who doesn't do anything complex with her 1910 but lives and dies by its calendar and contacts manager. It wouldn't meet my needs but I'd love to see a Dell X50v that was a little smaller. Maybe if they would leave out the CF slot...

[IndyDave]

You might be surprised if you gave it a try.

As I have already said, it may better meet SOME people's needs. The ability to return it to a brick and mortar store as needed trumps any potential benefits from the increased screen resolution. Definitely, IF I were to consider a VGA device, it would be the Dell over the 4700. However, I am not and did not find the potential benefits overwhelming when I went to buy.

No one is arguing that VGA isn't forward progress. Just that not all of us have a compulsion to be on the cutting edge--it's a tool for me. Many of the programs I need for work (drug databases, etc) would not be able to take advantage of the enhanced screen. And as long as I can do the things I want, I don't have a problem with what I have right now--no hassles, no SW compatibility issues, better battery longevity.

Some peope want a Lambourghini. My Infiniti is fine with me. Others will be content with a Ford 500 or F-150. To each their own. Peace.

[robert_biggs]

Battery life.

Actually the 2190 has a smaller battery (920 mAh) than the Dells (1100 mAh) and the 1950 has the same size.

Given the choice between a $400 low end Dell and the 1950 at $300, I'll take the 1950.

You do realize that the low end Dell actually only costs $299 and has 32MB more RAM and 64MB more ROM, plus a much faster processor. And you get a CF slot all for the same price as the HP rx1950.

I'm sorry to be the pessimist, but when you compare all the current HP PPCs to Dell's current lineup, the Dells offer the same or better specs at a lower price point. If you like paying more money for similar or inferior products, go ahead and buy an HP.

[robert_biggs]

Some peope want a Lambourghini. My Infiniti is fine with me. Others will be content with a Ford 500 or F-150. To each their own. Peace.

Dell sells more than the X51v. The basic X51 is priced lower than any of the HP models and has a QVGA screen and good specs.

[corwyyn]

This should help you

http://davesipaq.com/vbmcms/images/2795mem2.jpg

Thanks! So, around 32Mbytes free, as in the x51v. :(

I wonder how much RAM is available in the rx1950 :) Your review (http://davesipaq.com/articles/iPAQ_HP_Microsoft_Mobile%205_rx1950/1.html) only says "I have not used it with a lot of memory intensive applications but so far with the limited numbers of applications I have used, it has performed well.", but there're no exact figures...
Here is a shot of the memory screen from my 1950 (actually a 1955):
http://members.cox.net/corwyyn/rx1950-memory2.jpg
That is with about 6 programs active.
I saw the 1950 for sale at Frys in Phoenix last week. STILL no VGA in the 22XX series?? The Dell X51v is a better deal.
I know, I finally went ahead and bought one. Its pretty nice so far. Only problem I had was getting it to initially sync; found out I had to change some settings in ZoneAlarm after calling HP tech support. Also found out that they aren't really supposed to be on the market right now :lol:

[Paragon]

Given the choice between a $400 low end Dell and the 1950 at $300, I'll take the 1950.

You do realize that the low end Dell actually only costs $299 and has 32MB more RAM and 64MB more ROM, plus a much faster processor. And you get a CF slot all for the same price as the HP rx1950.



Looking at this page the cheapest x51 I see is $397. Are there others?
http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/pda?c=us&amp;cs=19&amp;l=en&amp;s=dhs

Still, to be honest, even if they are the same money, for a device at that level which isn't intended to be a power house...I'll take the Ipaq.....as I said it's the best form factor PPC has ever said.....call me buts. ;)

Dave

[robert_biggs]

Looking at this page the cheapest x51 I see is $397. Are there others?
http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/pda?c=us&amp;cs=19&amp;l=en&amp;s=dhs

Click on the "Compare Axim Handhelds at the top of that page and you will see the $299 Axim. Dell SB has it on sale (http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/handhelds?c=us&amp;cs=04&amp;l=en&amp;s=bsd) for $269.

[Paragon]

Looking at this page the cheapest x51 I see is $397. Are there others?
http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/pda?c=us&amp;cs=19&amp;l=en&amp;s=dhs

Click on the "Compare Axim Handhelds at the top of that page and you will see the $299 Axim. Dell SB has it on sale (http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/handhelds?c=us&amp;cs=04&amp;l=en&amp;s=bsd) for $269.

Wow! They're all very good deals.

[Jason Lee]

Here is a shot of the memory screen from my 1950 (actually a 1955):
http://members.cox.net/corwyyn/rx1950-memory2.jpg
That is with about 6 programs active.


eep! 4 mb free? ouchie. WebIS mail takes about 8 to even load. :lol:
Not the device for me, but super cool size. This device will do very well for those who only need the built-in apps. Wifi is a nice bonus too. :)

[Fishie]

[quote=Fishie]Battery life.

Actually the 2190 has a smaller battery (920 mAh) than the Dells (1100 mAh) and the 1950 has the same size.

quote]

And still they offer better batery life.
The features of the dell´s come at a price I am not willing to pay.
Yes there are several models of Dell PPC´s, same however is true with HP PPCs and until Dell can provide a machine with the industrial quality of the 2000 line of HP or a PPC that is as pocketable as the 1900 I will continue to prefer HP.
Over here the Dell x51v costs 499€, thats over 600$ including tax.
A HP 4700 has a larger screen of better quality and more then twice the battery life at 475€.

[Fishie]

Some peope want a Lambourghini. My Infiniti is fine with me. Others will be content with a Ford 500 or F-150. To each their own. Peace.

Dell sells more than the X51v. The basic X51 is priced lower than any of the HP models and has a QVGA screen and good specs.

And an Acer N50 high costs 349€ over here(including taxes which stand at 21%), features 128Megabytes of ram and 64mb of rom, a model where the ram and rom amounts are switched is on the way.
It includes a luxury cradle(something the Dell does not) that has a USB host port build in(none of the Dells support USB host) dual wireless and a 520Mz processor.

Dells are not the best value everywhere and are definitly not the best choice for everyone.

[christheswiss]

I love the form factor, I have owned a 1940 now for almost 3 years and I am drooling for an updated version. However, the absence of BT kills it for me. I sync and have GPS connectivity via BT which is absolutely essential, why BT is not included baffles me. Hopefully, maybe there will be an upgoming version with BT.... There just is no other PPC with these dimensions !

[Fishie]

I love the form factor, I have owned a 1940 now for almost 3 years and I am drooling for an updated version. However, the absence of BT kills it for me. I sync and have GPS connectivity via BT which is absolutely essential, why BT is not included baffles me. Hopefully, maybe there will be an upgoming version with BT.... There just is no other PPC with these dimensions !

Yes there is, VGA even.
Its just not out yet and its anyones guess when it will be out.

[Mark Johnson]

I love the form factor...

There just is no other PPC with these dimensions !

Yes there is, VGA even.
Its just not out yet and its anyones guess when it will be out.

Hey Fishie, are you talking about the Acer n300? Or (as Yoda said) is there "another hope" out there?

[Fishie]

Hey Fishie, are you talking about the Acer n300? Or (as Yoda said) is there "another hope" out there?

Yeah the Acer.
Used to own an n50, was a good lil machine.

[Menneisyys]

Not all need or even want VGA on a PDA...more power hungry

This is a common misconception. Some VGA devices (x50v/x51v/e800/Asus a730(w)) are power hungry, some VGA devices (hx4700/PL720) are not. The latter devices, of course, are still worse than the excellent battery life of the rx3715. Still, you can use them the entire day on a single charge if you don't use Wi-Fi much.

more SW problems.


SW problems (because of VGA) are very-very rare.

[Menneisyys]

This should help you


Thanks! So, around 32Mbytes free, as in the x51v. :(

I wonder how much RAM is available in the rx1950 :) Your review (http://davesipaq.com/articles/iPAQ_HP_Microsoft_Mobile%205_rx1950/1.html) only says "I have not used it with a lot of memory intensive applications but so far with the limited numbers of applications I have used, it has performed well.", but there're no exact figures...
Here is a shot of the memory screen from my 1950 (actually a 1955):
http://members.cox.net/corwyyn/rx1950-memory2.jpg
That is with about 6 programs active.


Thanks. Could you also post the free memory available with everything shut down, even in plain textual form so that the screenshot capturer utility/the desktop-based capturer client (http://www.ipaqhq.com/forums/showthread.php?p=100172) doesn't take up additional dynamic memory?

[Menneisyys]

Here is a shot of the memory screen from my 1950 (actually a 1955):
http://members.cox.net/corwyyn/rx1950-memory2.jpg
That is with about 6 programs active.


eep! 4 mb free? ouchie. WebIS mail takes about 8 to even load. :lol:
Not the device for me, but super cool size. This device will do very well for those who only need the built-in apps. Wifi is a nice bonus too. :)

It can't be that bad (good old days of 4M RAM WinCE H/PC's :) ). I wonder how much available memory a rx1950 has that has no active programs running.

[Jason Lee]

It can't be that bad (good old days of 4M RAM WinCE H/PC's :) ). I wonder how much available memory a rx1950 has that has no active programs running.

No, it won't be bad for some people but there are programs that will not run on it. I did another test today. With only 5 email messages total in my inboxes webis mail takes 6mb (SIX megabytes) of ram just to load. I know this might be an extreme example because webis mail is a horrible program. It eats about 30-50kb for every 3kb email you download.. and you never get the memory back if you delete the mail... 8O Plus the program is horribly slow. To make it usable they appear to copy the entire email database into ram when you run the program.. anyway it's a horrible memory hog, storage and ram.

I opened resco photo viewer and looked in the folder with my picture from my trip to boston. 6.5mb just to load the thumbnails. Every picture in the folder was only taken at 800x600 low quality. Can you imagin trying to view a single picture taken with an 8 or even 12 mp camera?

Like i said before it should work just fine for the apps that come with the device and probably many other programs. But this is the only device i've seen that does not have enough memory to run some current apps.

But i really do like the device.. it's just not for me. soo small though.. ;)

[whydidnt]

It can't be that bad (good old days of 4M RAM WinCE H/PC's :) ). I wonder how much available memory a rx1950 has that has no active programs running.

I'm curious about this number to. My JasJar currently uses 21.98 MB on a soft reset. I don't have any extra apps loading at start-up. It seems that the PIM databases must be loaded into memory on start-up because the amount used grew by about 2 MB the first time I synced (sunk?) my data with the device. It will be interesting to see how much VGA and phone stuff is used by the Universal. I uninstalled the AV and Skype programs so they aren't taking up space, except in the extended ROM.

If this device really uses almost as much RAM as the JasJar just on boot, I could see it being difficult to use for anything but the built-in apps and perhaps some simple games.

[Menneisyys]

I'm curious about this number to.


Anyone, please, how much RAM memory is available for running apps on the rx1950 after a soft reset?

[Menneisyys]

OK guys, thanks to Isntaller @ BH (http://discussion.brighthand.com/showthread.php?s=&amp;postid=779536), the available RAM/storage:

Storage free: 33.06 MB
Program Free 12.81 MB

That is, you won't even have memory to open more than one tab in NetFront with medium-sizes webpages.