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Ed Hansberry
07-27-2005, 03:00 PM
<div class='os_post_top_link'><a href='http://www.mastersoftmobilesolutions.com/sudoku_ppc.php' target='_blank'>http://www.mastersoftmobilesolution.../sudoku_ppc.php</a><br /><br /></div>I don't really play many games on my Pocket PC. I can count on one hand, seriously, the number of games I've installed since 1998 when I got my first PDA and all of those are strategy games of some sort. Last week I installed SuDoku from Mastersoft Mobile Solutions. This type of game is right up my alley. <br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/hansberry/2005/20050726-sudoku1.gif" /><br /><b>Figure 1:</b> A completed SuDoku board<br /><br />The game has 81 squares and that 9X9 grid is broken down in to 9 smaller 3X3 grids. The object is to fill the board with the numbers 1-9, 9 times and never repeat a number in a column, row or within one of the 3X3 sub-grids.<!><br /><br />The game has multiple levels. The harder levels give you less starting numbers which increases the amount of guesses you have to make before you can determine with certainty where some of the numbers go. Mastersoft has given you tools though to highlight your numbers in various colors or use very small memo numbers that allow you to put several possible numbers in a box. Of course, there is a clock ticking away while you work. You didn't think you had all of the time in the world did you? ;-) The longer it takes, the fewer points you get once you complete a puzzle.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/hansberry/2005/20050726-sudoku2.gif" /><br /><b>Figure 2:</b> Various difficulty levels and scoring<br /><br />There are some aids available to you. You can have the game to a quick error check to see if you have violated a rule, like putting the same number in a column more than once, or even get a hint, which will tell you if you have an incorrect guess or give you the number for one of the boxes. Don't use these features too much though. Besides not being terribly sporting, they take away available points very rapidly. 8O <br /><br />It also allows you to pause the game, but doing do hides the board. It wouldn't be fair to "pause" while you study the board would it? You can also undo your last move, turn sounds on and off and if you get bored with the style and colors, you can change those too. In fact, if you are really wanting a challenge, you can stop using numbers altogether and use symbols, as shown in Figure 3.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/hansberry/2005/20050726-sudoku3.gif" /><br /><b>Figure 3:</b> One of the symbol styles available.<br /><br />The game itself requires about 6MB of storage space. I have mine installed into the extra ROM storage of my PDA2K. It should also work fine form a storage card. It requires the Microsoft .NET Compact Framework, which is standard on all Pocket PC 2003 and higher devices. Mastersoft has links for the framework if your 2002 device doesn't have it.<br /><br />I have really only scratched the surface of what features are available. It is really a comprehensive implementation of the original paper based game, enhanced just enough by the computer to make it thoroughly enjoyable. If this type of puzzle interests you I highly recommend you try this game. Consider this fair warning though. This is one of those games where you say "Oh, just one more board" and before you know it, you have whittled away a good part of an hour! There is a trial available and you can buy the full version for <a href="http://www.mastersoftmobilesolutions.com/sudoku_ppc.php">$14.95 on their site</a>.

rangor
07-27-2005, 04:30 PM
I haven't seen that particular piece of software, but I have however been using this
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=18649

I have to say that it is very good indeed. Certainly worth checking out if you like Sudokus. I emailed them with a (very) minor bug on an earlier release and they offered me a new build within 3 hours. Fantastic customer care I thought. they have since improved the game further and what's more, it's cheaper than the one you're suggesting.

dommasters
07-27-2005, 04:56 PM
I haven't seen that particular piece of software, but I have however been using this
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=18649

I have to say that it is very good indeed. Certainly worth checking out if you like Sudokus. I emailed them with a (very) minor bug on an earlier release and they offered me a new build within 3 hours. Fantastic customer care I thought. they have since improved the game further and what's more, it's cheaper than the one you're suggesting.

Personally I wouldn't buy an inferior product to save $3 but then I would say that :lol:

SteveHoward999
07-27-2005, 05:42 PM
SuDoku from Mastersoft Mobile Solutions ROCKS!!!

Vincent M Ferrari
07-27-2005, 06:13 PM
Once you start and get the hang of it, it gets really addictive really fast. I bought it the day it came out and have not regretted it since. In fact, it's the only game that's been getting any play on my PPC lately!

SteveHoward999
07-27-2005, 06:15 PM
Yeah - at first I thought it was cute and interesting. Now it's becoming about as addictive as teh Rubik Cube was ....

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rcecme
07-27-2005, 06:42 PM
Like Ed, I do not usually put games on my PocketPC. But I downloaded the Betas of Mastersofts' version of Sudoku and love it. (Don't read the paper much so was not aware this was a new craze.)

I don't think I want to pay $15 for a game though. The most my cheap self would pay for a game is $5.

I did look at the versions on PockGear and downloaded a trial of the above mentioned one, Sudoku Rules. Mastersoft is much better than the $12 version on PocketGear. Of course, Sudoku Rules says it has 12 million puzzles. I do not think Mastersoft claimed to have that many included puzzles.

Of course, PocketGear has a freeware version called Sudoku Assistant which looks like it will suffice for me until I can find a version as good as the Mastersoft one for $5. You can input puzzles and save them. It is no where near what Mastersoft has accomplished but as I said it is FREE.

Kevin Jackson
07-27-2005, 10:20 PM
Until a little less than a month ago I had not even heard of SuDoku -- now, thanks to this game, I am hooked. I was lucky enough to be a beta tester of this game and have to say that it has been a great experience from beginning to end. Not only do I get to test a great, very fun game, but all of the feedback of all of the beta testers was considered and much of it added to the game. This is a game built, not just by a programmer but, by those who play the game.

As to the game, itself, it is a deceptively simple looking game which, as Ed said, gobbles up hours of your time if you let it. I am a sucker for logic games and this is the grandaddy of them all.

Mastersoft's version is the best I have tried, and I have tried most of them out there in the month since I discovered the game. The interface is clean and easy to use and the puzzles go from simple to pull-your-hair-out difficult, without frustrating me too much. There are about 1 million built in puzzles with the ability to add your own from your local paper or one of the approximately 20 billion SuDoku sites out there.

Best of all, development continues and you will soon see many more great features, I am sure.

I highly recommend this game. Try it, you won't be disappointed.

klinux
07-28-2005, 02:41 AM
Nitpick: SuDoKu as we know it today is not an old Japanses puzzle. It was invented in the 70's in America. See http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,1484328,00.html.

SteveHoward999
07-28-2005, 03:56 AM
Nitpick: SuDoKu as we know it today is not an old Japanses puzzle. It was invented in the 70's in America. See http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,1484328,00.html.



More nitpicking ... from the same article


The Sudoku story began in 1783 when Leonhard Euler, a Swiss mathematician, devised 'Latin Squares', which he described as 'a new kind of magic squares'. Euler had come up with a grid in which every number or sym bol appears once in each row or column. More than two centuries later, the difference for Sudoku players is that the grid is subdivided into blocks of nine.

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Paula
07-28-2005, 11:01 AM
Ed, I'm with you. Mastersoft Mobile Solutions' SuDoKu is outstanding! I have tried most of the SuDoKu puzzles (the ones with trials) and believe me this piece of software out-shines them all.

For 6 months the only game I had been playing is Boxikon (I love it), that is until Mastersoft came along with their version of SuDoKu.

bombalurina
07-28-2005, 11:38 AM
I haven't seen that particular piece of software, but I have however been using this
Oh I see. I thought we were commenting on the review about that particular piece of software.

and what's more, it's cheaper than the one you're suggesting.

True: it's cheaper, 2.95 $ less, and if for that, there are still cheaper sudokus available ;-)
and, since Mastersoft Sudoku was betatested by a more than 100 sudoku players community (and it tells: showing the same graphic - e.g. for the memo keypad - is not the same as having the same usability...), at less than 3c/betatester it's not so expensive, is it?
:lol: :lol:

PocketPC Addict
07-28-2005, 07:02 PM
Count me in the newly "hooked" category. I really enjoy playing during lunch. Seems to wake up my mind.

Is anyone playing using the bugs or icons Styles?

dommasters
07-29-2005, 11:27 AM
Count me in the newly "hooked" category. I really enjoy playing during lunch. Seems to wake up my mind.

Is anyone playing using the bugs or icons Styles?

Cool Brad !!!! Great to have you on board ! We've some enhancements coming soon :wink:

Mastersoft SuDoku just became the No1 Most Popular Pocket PC App* Overall !!! Though sadly that meant Chess falling to the not so respectable No2 slot :D

*iPAQ Choice

tidebearer
07-29-2005, 02:01 PM
Hi,

Does anyone know if the puzzles on the Mastersoft Sudoku can all be solved by logic alone? I know some of the programs out don't and need guesses along the way.

Cheers

dommasters
07-29-2005, 02:53 PM
Hi,

Does anyone know if the puzzles on the Mastersoft Sudoku can all be solved by logic alone? I know some of the programs out don't and need guesses along the way.

Cheers

Yes, all one million of them, since each one has only ONE solution it is therefore inferred that it can be solved by logic alone tho' you'd need a SuDoku expert from our forums to prove this to you. Of course you can make guesses ... indeed the solver is based on logic alone as it is a computer program and it is not programmed to guess ... hence solve times of less than a second or so on fast PPCs.

Iznot Gold
08-03-2005, 04:03 PM
Hi,

I like it...I would like to buy it...but I don't like paypal...why isn't it available from Handango?

David

dommasters
08-03-2005, 06:39 PM
Hi,

I like it...I would like to buy it...but I don't like paypal...why isn't it available from Handango?

David

Because:
1. They charge us 60% Commission and
2. Their Best Seller Charts aren't based on the number of copies sold anymore ... so we'd have to make it really expensive to get it to chart.

Iznot Gold
08-03-2005, 10:45 PM
Thanks for getting back to me on this...

60% commission...Wow! Ok reasonable reason. So is there any other alternative to using Paypal?

Cheers

David

dommasters
08-03-2005, 11:40 PM
Thanks for getting back to me on this...

60% commission...Wow! Ok reasonable reason. So is there any other alternative to using Paypal?

Cheers

David
Sorry David there isn't and we have no plans to change this as we are very happy with Paypal.

rosbif
08-06-2005, 10:28 AM
Bought mine from ipaqchoice.com and paid with credit card I think - great piece of software...

Am having some trouble with it crashing my ipaq 4150 though - can I get support here or should I go to the Mastersoft website?

Theo
08-10-2005, 12:57 AM
Bought mine from ipaqchoice.com and paid with credit card I think - great piece of software...

Am having some trouble with it crashing my ipaq 4150 though - can I get support here or should I go to the Mastersoft website?

Suggest you log a call with Mastersoft.

jneely
08-10-2005, 07:21 PM
Can someone please tell me what the Mastersoft version offers that is better than SuDoKu Rules (from Spiral Mile)? I've been playing the latter lately and I want to know why people feel like the Mastersoft version is better?

http://www.spiralmile.com
http://www.spiralmile.com/sudokurules/upload/BoardPlay.jpg http://www.spiralmile.com/sudokurules/help/image_3x3.jpg http://www.spiralmile.com/sudokurules/help/image_options.jpg

For me, this is why I chose SuDoKu Rules:
1) Interface is more attractive
2) Solver had better visual hinting and more hinting options
3) More comprehensive puzzle generator
4) Smaller executable (1MB memory)
5) UI allows multiple "pencil-marked" numbers to be enterred into cells quickly without popping up "keypad picker" in each one
6) Can generate 12mil puzzles
7) Can be purchased on Handango, Pocketgear, etc... (which means you can usually knock another 15-20% off with a coupon code)
8 ) DOES NOT REQUIRE THE .NET CF, which saves almost 3MB of main storage (if you don't have it in ROM)
9) Lots of updates that add features and lots more coming: http://www.spiralmile.com/releasehistory.htm

I'd still like to know what Mastersoft has to offer though...

AximMeister
08-11-2005, 12:06 AM
Can someone please tell me what the Mastersoft version offers that is better than SuDoKu Rules (from Spiral Mile)? I've been playing the latter lately and I want to know why people feel like the Mastersoft version is better?

http://www.spiralmile.com
http://www.spiralmile.com/sudokurules/upload/BoardPlay.jpg http://www.spiralmile.com/sudokurules/help/image_3x3.jpg http://www.spiralmile.com/sudokurules/help/image_options.jpg

For me, this is why I chose SuDoKu Rules:
1) Interface is more attractive
2) Solver had better visual hinting and more hinting options
3) More comprehensive puzzle generator
4) Smaller executable (1MB memory)
5) UI allows multiple "pencil-marked" numbers to be enterred into cells quickly without popping up "keypad picker" in each one
6) Can generate 12mil puzzles
7) Can be purchased on Handango, Pocketgear, etc... (which means you can usually knock another 15-20% off with a coupon code)
8 ) DOES NOT REQUIRE THE .NET CF, which saves almost 3MB of main storage (if you don't have it in ROM)
9) Lots of updates that add features and lots more coming: http://www.spiralmile.com/releasehistory.htm

I'd still like to know what Mastersoft has to offer though...

Is it April 1st ? Better UI ? I never laughed so much :D :D :D
Mastersoft SuDoku is the best selling pocket pc program (full stop). It has been nominated by the PocketPCMag judges (SuDoku Rules isn't but then it's psychodelic color scheme probably frightened them) ....
I've been playing with the beta of their next update ... it's out of this world. Has something like 20M puzzles but who cares, I'll never do them all. Master levels are FAR HARDER than SuDoku Rules too ...
Agreed though if you have a feeble device get SuDoku Rules as it will run on anything (somebody said it works on a 70s calculator though I can't confirm it) :D :D :D
PS I Tried SuDoku Rules ... doesn't use much memory ... but then it doesn't use any now ... 'cos I binned it :lol:
Anyways Mastersoft SuDoku is far cheaper (and better) ! I got mine for less than $4 from iPaqChoice.....
SuDoku Rules sure is a stinker and now we've got some screenies to prove it :)

rhmorrison
08-11-2005, 12:31 AM
SuDoku Rules sure is a stinker and now we've got some screenies to prove it :)
I think you are being pretty one-sided. :devilboy:

I have tried a number of Sudoku programs (though neither of those mentioned here) and the Look &amp; Feel of SuDoKu Rules is IMHO one of the better ones. I prefer myself that the board take up as much available screen real estate as possible as does the Mastersoft and Resco versions (although the contrast of the Resco version definitely leaves something to be desired).

In any case, the SuDoku Rules display is clear and readable and apparently has a lot of features. There are a lot of these programs available because the programming is relatively easy when compared to other board games (even though they do provide solvers).

Maybe someone will volunteer to do an objective (as far as possible) comparison review of ALL the different available PocketPC Sudoku programs. Any volunteers :?:

Iznot Gold
08-11-2005, 08:48 AM
Cheers rosbif,

I've now bought it from iPaq Choice paying by credit card and it only cost me £3.32 (1 Point) instead of £8.34 direct from Mastersoft.

Cheers

David

rosbif
08-11-2005, 08:58 AM
Can't beat that price for what is a great bit of software! Funnily enough after having bought that (and journal bar for 2 points too) I've just got a survey from MORI about IPAQ choice that has given me 2 points free! Dammit!!! :D

Jim0001
08-11-2005, 01:34 PM
Is it April 1st ? Better UI ? I never laughed so much :D :D :D
Mastersoft SuDoku is the best selling pocket pc program (full stop). It has been nominated by the PocketPCMag judges (SuDoku Rules isn't but then it's psychodelic color scheme probably frightened them) ....
I've been playing with the beta of their next update ... it's out of this world. Has something like 20M puzzles but who cares, I'll never do them all. Master levels are FAR HARDER than SuDoku Rules too ...
Agreed though if you have a feeble device get SuDoku Rules as it will run on anything (somebody said it works on a 70s calculator though I can't confirm it) :D :D :D
PS I Tried SuDoku Rules ... doesn't use much memory ... but then it doesn't use any now ... 'cos I binned it :lol:
Anyways Mastersoft SuDoku is far cheaper (and better) ! I got mine for less than $4 from iPaqChoice.....
SuDoku Rules sure is a stinker and now we've got some screenies to prove it :)

Looks like Mastersoft (and people pretending not to work for them) are run by a bunch of schoolkids. I haven't read such a childish post for a long time.

rhmorrison
08-11-2005, 01:41 PM
Looks like Mastersoft (and people pretending not to work for them) are run by a bunch of schoolkids. I haven't read such a childish post for a long time.
I agree - and also think he must work for Mastersoft.
Maybe I will have to do my own personal comparison...
BTW: He sure does like those Emoticons :roll:

AximMeister
08-11-2005, 02:28 PM
Looks like Mastersoft (and people pretending not to work for them) are run by a bunch of schoolkids. I haven't read such a childish post for a long time.
I agree - and also think he must work for Mastersoft.
Maybe I will have to do my own personal comparison...
BTW: He sure does like those Emoticons :roll:
When I am a big boy in long trousers I want to work for Mastersoft :D
Maybe you should do your own comparison ... doh ... else why give your opinion :roll:

dommasters
08-12-2005, 10:49 AM
Looks like Mastersoft (and people pretending not to work for them) are run by a bunch of schoolkids. I haven't read such a childish post for a long time.
I agree - and also think he must work for Mastersoft.
Maybe I will have to do my own personal comparison...
BTW: He sure does like those Emoticons :roll:
When I am a big boy in long trousers I want to work for Mastersoft :D
Maybe you should do your own comparison ... doh ... else why give your opinion :roll:
He doesn't work for Mastersoft and neither does anybody else posting here. There's room for more than one SuDoku game so good luck to all of them. There's no reason that they can't all do well, especially as we don't list new titles at PocketGear or Handango.
Cheers,
Dom
NB If you are helping test our next version then please be respectful ... it does nobody any favours to be childish.

PocketPC Addict
08-12-2005, 12:35 PM
He doesn't work for Mastersoft and neither does anybody else posting here. There's room for more than one SuDoku game so good luck to all of them. There's no reason that they can't all do well, especially as we don't list new titles at PocketGear or Handango.
Cheers,
Dom
NB If you are helping test our next version then please be respectful ... it does nobody any favours to be childish.

I am glad you cleared that up. I haven't tuned into this thread for awhile and was surprised how far it had degenerated. :?

disconnected
08-15-2005, 04:56 AM
I'm really enjoying Mastersoft's version (the only one I've tried), even though it continually proves that I'm less logical than I had hoped. :oops:

I look forward to the added feature of being able to save games (multiple, with user-assigned names or comments, if possible).

ChristopherTD
08-15-2005, 10:29 AM
(mini-rant mode)

The registration for the Mastersoft product is needlessly complex and won't let you use the clipboard.

You get an email message that asks you to run the trial and generate a serial number, which you have to write down, then copy into a reply to the email. Then you send that off. You get another reply with a 16-digit alphanumeric key that you again have to write down, and then type into the Sudoku program.

At the very least they could have enabled the clipboard...

End of Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

OSUKid7
08-15-2005, 10:00 PM
I really want to try this game, but unfortunately, I keep getting errors when I try to run it.
The following Error occured: Could not find resource assembly
hit ok, get:
919:DB Open Error:Could not find resource assembly. Try increasing the amount of available memory available eg remove unused software and files from your Pocket PC.
hit, ok, get:
ExecuteSQLCommand:The following Error occured: Could not find resource assembly
hit ok, get the same error (ExecuteSQLCommand) again and again.

Some other times when I opn the program, I get this error:
An unexpected error has occured in SoDoKu.exe.
Select Quit and then restart this program, or Details for more information.
SuDoKu.exe
NullReferenceException

Graphics::DrawImage+0x1e
::+0x197
::+0x3e2
Form::OnLoad+0x15
Form::_SetVisibleNotify+0x1d
Control::set_Visible+0x1f
Application::Run+0x7
::+0xa


I've cleared up additional program memory, still doesn't work. Before I open it, I have around 12 MB of program memory free. After I open, rougly 5 MB.

I've tried installing this to both my iPAQ File Store and 1 GB SD card, both with the same results.

I guess I'll contact Mastersoft support, but does anyone know why I'm getting these errors?

PocketPC Addict
08-15-2005, 11:37 PM
That looks to be a sql error due to a missing sql component. If you installed the game to your file store, you'd still need to install the sql component to your main memory.

OSUKid7
08-15-2005, 11:55 PM
That looks to be a sql error due to a missing sql component. If you installed the game to your file store, you'd still need to install the sql component to your main memory.
Install the SQL Component? I assume that's included with the SoDoku installer, right?

Either way, I'm emailing with Mastersoft support, so hopefully we can figure it out. I tried installing it to main memory, and that gave me the same problems. I also just reinstalled the .NET CF 1.0 SP3 to make sure that wasn't the problem, and I still get the same errors.

PocketPC Addict
08-16-2005, 12:02 AM
It was included with the installer I used - so I'd assume it's in yours too. hmm...guess they will have to fix it.

rosbif
08-16-2005, 08:01 AM
OSUKid7,

Can you let me know what they say - all I've had when talking to them is to reinstall it; maybe there is some other problem (I'm not getting the same messages as you but other errors)...

rhmorrison
08-16-2005, 08:33 AM
I also just reinstalled the .NET CF 1.0 SP3 to make sure that wasn't the problem, and I still get the same errors.
I had the same problem when I installed the program. In my case this occurred because I didn't have .NET CF 1.0 SP3 installed (I think I still had SP1). I am running from a Storace Card and of course the .NET CF always installs to main memory.

You will also get this if your memory gets to low. You need at least 6 MB free before starting the program.

OSUKid7
08-16-2005, 12:39 PM
Would advise a refund. Microsoft .NET is clashing with something already on your device by the look of things. Hard reset is an alternative solution but I'm sure you don't wish to do that. It definitely works on your machine but something on your device already is killing it.
Not exactly the answer I was looking for. I told them I hadn't bought it, just used the trial version, and that I would try again after my next hard reset, which will probably be after I get Windows Mobile 5.0 on my device.

I may try some other stuff, maybe boot into safe mode to make sure it's not really a memory problem (although I'm pretty sure it has enough memory).

I'll keep you updated if anything works.

Iznot Gold
08-16-2005, 12:46 PM
Sorry to hear that OSUKid7.

I'm sure it will be no help to know that its working fine on my hx4705. Also with regard to frustrating registration procedure (ChristopherTD) - there is no such procedure when installing using HP download agent...no reg code needed!

Cheers

David

PocketPC Addict
08-16-2005, 04:28 PM
Getting back to the game for a minute, how long does it take the average player to complete a medium sudoku? Its taking me quite a while. Does anyone have any tips for a somewhat newbie?

OSUKid7
08-16-2005, 07:01 PM
I may try some other stuff, maybe boot into safe mode to make sure it's not really a memory problem (although I'm pretty sure it has enough memory).
Just an update, it gave me the same errors in safe mode. :( Guess no SuDoku for me, at least until WM5.

disconnected
08-16-2005, 09:09 PM
MEDIUM!! I'm still fumbling my way through simple ones. :oops:

rhmorrison
08-16-2005, 10:37 PM
Just an update, it gave me the same errors in safe mode. :( Guess no SuDoku for me, at least until WM5.
You could always try Sudoku Rules! (http://www.spiralmile.com). :)

OSUKid7
08-17-2005, 12:15 AM
You could always try Sudoku Rules! (http://www.spiralmile.com). :)
Yeah, I really did like the interface of Mastersoft SuDoku better, but I may try that until WM5. Hopefully it's a long trial. ;)

Jim0001
08-24-2005, 08:30 PM
Maybe someone will volunteer to do an objective (as far as possible) comparison review of ALL the different available PocketPC Sudoku programs. Any volunteers :?:
I found this review which is a start - it compares Bunnydoku, Mastersoft Sudoku and Sudoku Rules in a very sensible, objective way: http://www.pocketpclouisville.com/reviews/sudoku_review.htm
I've now got into Sudoku Rules and the hinting is amazing!

dommasters
08-26-2005, 09:49 AM
Maybe someone will volunteer to do an objective (as far as possible) comparison review of ALL the different available PocketPC Sudoku programs. Any volunteers :?:
I found this review which is a start - it compares Bunnydoku, Mastersoft Sudoku and Sudoku Rules in a very sensible, objective way: http://www.pocketpclouisville.com/reviews/sudoku_review.htm
I've now got into Sudoku Rules and the hinting is amazing!

Amazing maybe ... until you see our V1.10 which is almost ready. It leaves SuDoku Rules for dead in terms of hinting ... and goes way beyond it in EVERY other area too :D As one of our testers said today - Mastersoft SuDoku V1.10 will blow the competition away...

rosbif
08-26-2005, 10:01 AM
Will 1.1 be a freeupgrade from 1.0?

dommasters
08-26-2005, 10:06 AM
Will 1.1 be a freeupgrade from 1.0?
Yes of course !
I should add that two of the new features have never been seen before ... yet the 100+ testers are now asking how they ever lived without them :D

If you want to be notified automatically of the release of V1.10 then simply sign up for our newsletter, on our home page.

Perhaps we could have an in depth review of all the different SuDokus, but let's wait for us to release V1.10, afterall all the other products have updated their products.

Hal Goldstein
09-02-2005, 07:08 PM
Way back in the thread it was pointed out that the Mastersoft Soduku product was nominated for our annual Windows Mobile Pocket PC magazine, Best Software Awards, but Soduku Rules wasn't. Just to be fair, both products were introduced at the very end of our nominations process. We became aware of the Mastersoft product but not Soduku Rules.

I have personally tried both products and like them both and would be comfortable recommending either. IMHO for the current versions, the interface for the Mastersoft product is cleaner especially with full screen, and the hint engine for Soduku Rules is quite helpful for learning.

The competetion between the two products is great for consumers.

Hal Goldstein, Exec Editor and Publisher
Pocket PC magazine (soon to be Smartphone &amp; Pocket PC magazine.)
Awards page at www.pocketpcmag.com/awards
[email protected]

dommasters
09-06-2005, 07:51 PM
Okay we've listened and made some huge changes to SuDoku

http://www.mastersoftmobilesolutions.com/SuDokuV1101.gif

New features include:

1. In depth statistics.
2. Can use hints even if score is zero. Infact you can hide and ignore the score system if you wish.
3. 14 Different types of hint (with more to come).
4. Lots of new keypad options such as sticky, draggable etc
5. Much harder Master Levels.
6. New Ball and String feature (never seen before)
7. New Load and save options.
8. Over Ten Million SuDokus (I wont say how many ...).
...

More free updates to come of course ...

Hope you like it ... and if you don't we'll keep updating it until you do ... just send an email to [email protected]

Spiralmile
11-25-2005, 12:52 PM
Our current version 1.08 has a full screen board, is compatible with WM5 and square screens, and has VGA graphics.

It also has a game mode where you race against the computer to complete the board, and score higher points for more difficult moves. We have also added step-by-step full english explanations for every step in solving a puzzle, which can also help you solve extreme puzzles that require X-Wing, Swordfish and NRules logic.

Visit www.spiralmile.com for more information and to try it out.

http://www.spiralmile.com/sudokurules/anchor/108_swordfish.jpg http://www.spiralmile.com/sudokurules/anchor/108_scramble.jpg