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Ed Hansberry
02-12-2005, 12:00 AM
For years, Palm/Palm Source/pa1mOne/133t h/\x0r5 have claimed Palm devices can do multitasking like a Pocket PC, but the truth is, there is always some limit. I can, if I so desire, download a web page, sync email, sync my RSS feeds, listen to music, have a Windows Terminal Server session open and copy data from various contact fields into an email message never having to lose my place or have an app I am switching between take me back to the main view. You can't do that on a Palm. The multitasking is different, the details of which have been expounded upon many times in these pages, so I'll spare you the details.<br /><br />Now though, a device is on the way, one that allows <b>full blown multitasking!</b> Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the Palm Cosmetic Kit.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/hansberry/2005/20050211-palmmultitask.jpg" /><br /><br />Now you can drive, put on your makeup, chat with all of your girlfriends and surf radio stations! No more having to stop one to do the other. You can <a href="http://www.firacosmetics.com/shop/catpage.cfm?id=121#">get one for $4.99</a> and true to Palm's history, the exact same thing comes in a variety of colors! Red, blue, purple and what seems to be three shade of silver. I'll call them Tungsten Silver, Zire Silver and <a href="http://news.com.com/2100-1040-243941.html?legacy=cnet">Claudia Schiffer Silver</a>.

OSUKid7
02-12-2005, 12:06 AM
:idontthinkso: Wait, seriously now, is this supposed to be a joke? :lol:

Ekkie Tepsupornchai
02-12-2005, 12:10 AM
Not quite the type of multi-tasking I was looking for! :?

rmasinag
02-12-2005, 12:46 AM
I think you get a ticket for this kind of multitasking :lol:

CTSLICK
02-12-2005, 01:05 AM
Dog gonnit that headline is just not fair when looking through the RSS feed headlines :evil: :lol:

yslee
02-12-2005, 01:51 AM
I never understand the point of juvenile potshots like this.

Darius Wey
02-12-2005, 01:59 AM
This is hilarious. I love it! :lol:

Janak Parekh
02-12-2005, 02:10 AM
I never understand the point of juvenile potshots like this.
On Friday afternoons, we usually do one humorous "off-topic" post. At least several Contributing Editors found it funny.

--janak

Eriq Cook
02-12-2005, 02:58 AM
Wow that's low. Pretty funny though.

Mitch D
02-12-2005, 03:09 AM
I never understand the point of juvenile potshots like this.

:idontthinkso:

You can be sure that there a number of "palmOS" sites out there that take thier shots at the WM OS as well.

:twak: :snipersmile: :splat:

:D :wink:

Wiggster
02-12-2005, 03:13 AM
I never understand the point of juvenile potshots like this.

:idontthinkso:

You can be sure that there a number of "palmOS" sites out there that take thier shots at the WM OS as well.

And why is "PalmOS" in quotes? Is there some fulsome joke I'm not getting by that being in quotes? :confused totally:

Darius Wey
02-12-2005, 03:27 AM
You can be sure that there a number of "palmOS" sites out there that take thier shots at the WM OS as well.

Rivalry brews innovation (although it is a bit one-sided at the moment). ;)

Wiggster
02-12-2005, 03:36 AM
You can be sure that there a number of "palmOS" sites out there that take thier shots at the WM OS as well.

Rivalry brews innovation (although it is a bit one-sided at the moment). ;)

The Palm fanboys would say the same thing, but mean completely the opposite :D

drop
02-12-2005, 03:42 AM
:jester:

The "Home" page would have the following icons:

Call Me First
Clipboard Grovve
Make A Date
Pink @ Home
Techno Glitter
Time to Shine

I think it is enough to manage "A Simple Life", don't you? :rotfl:

Nice way to finish a day. Thanks!

Ed Hansberry
02-12-2005, 03:54 AM
I never understand the point of juvenile potshots like this.
I save adult potshots for special occasions. Picking on the competition is too common for that, so juvenile it is!

I wonder why someone would take a sanctimonious potshot though? ;)

OSUKid7
02-12-2005, 04:03 AM
You can be sure that there a number of "palmOS" sites out there that take thier shots at the WM OS as well.
I was thinking the same thing! :lol:

TMann
02-12-2005, 09:22 AM
I never understand the point of juvenile potshots like this.

Ed seems to have some serious hang-ups about the Palm OS. Oh, well...at least it keeps him from writing any more of those "Bluetooth is dead!" columns...

:)

TMann

gorkon280
02-12-2005, 01:55 PM
I don't understand either. I like laughing, but I don't come here to laugh. I come here to get the latest skinny on Pocket PC's and as of late, there has not been much. I also saw someone mention that it's not fair when your reading the RSS feed and they are right it's not. AT somepoint, you gotta grow up...

OSUKid7
02-12-2005, 02:13 PM
I don't understand either. I like laughing, but I don't come here to laugh. I come here to get the latest skinny on Pocket PC's and as of late, there has not been much. I also saw someone mention that it's not fair when your reading the RSS feed and they are right it's not. AT somepoint, you gotta grow up...
It's the weekend, lighten up. ;) And as you said, there hasn't been much Pocket PC news lately, so what's wrong with a little humor at the end of a long week? If you want your thirty seconds back you wastted from reading this article, I'm sure Ed can arrange something. ;) :lol:

mv
02-12-2005, 02:42 PM
Hey, this model has more functions that the actual Palm V model.... :) :D :D

mpaque
02-12-2005, 04:08 PM
I think some people here need to lighten up.

I for one appreciate a bit of Friday afternoon humor :lol:

Dinosaur
02-12-2005, 04:18 PM
I think some people here need to lighten up.

I agree. PPCT always has a lot of good news so there's no reason why we can't have a bit of fun to read to end the working week.

shawnc
02-12-2005, 04:18 PM
I never understand the point of juvenile potshots like this.
I save adult potshots for special occasions. Picking on the competition is too common for that, so juvenile it is!

I wonder why someone would take a sanctimonious potshot though? ;)

Very nicely put. BTW, its Friday, lets lighten up and let Ed have a little fun.

CTSLICK
02-12-2005, 05:11 PM
I don't understand either. I like laughing, but I don't come here to laugh. I come here to get the latest skinny on Pocket PC's and as of late, there has not been much. I also saw someone mention that it's not fair when your reading the RSS feed and they are right it's not. AT somepoint, you gotta grow up...

Yeah, I mentioned the RSS feed...the subject line sucked me right over to the website as soon as I saw it. The difference is that it didn't bother me in the slightest and that I found it funny! :D I enjoy the overall style used by the contributors and editors. Its one of the things that keep me coming back.

Ed Hansberry
02-12-2005, 07:21 PM
I don't understand either. I like laughing, but I don't come here to laugh. I come here to get the latest skinny on Pocket PC's and as of late, there has not been much.
Checking the url... www.pocketpcthoughts.com
"Pocket PC Thoughts. Daily News, Views, Rants &amp; Raves."

:way to go:

Janak Parekh
02-12-2005, 09:35 PM
I come here to get the latest skinny on Pocket PC's and as of late, there has not been much.
Really? As of this week, since we got three editors, I thought the frontpage was overflowing with news.

- 8 posts on Friday (this one offtopic)
- 8 posts on Thursday
- 12 posts on Wednesday
- 10 posts on Tuesday
- 8-plus posts on Monday

We're averaging about one piece of news every two-to-three hours around the clock on weekdays -- not equally distributed, but frequent nevertheless.

--janak

k1darkknight
02-12-2005, 11:24 PM
You can be sure that there a number of "palmOS" sites out there that take thier shots at the WM OS as well.
Besides, remember a while back, when SOOO many PC users were taking potshots at the Mac? Now, I'm not a Mac fan, but I DO have to admit that, even if they haven't exactly cut into the market share of PCs, they DO seem to have found a bit of a niche, and rebounded, at least financially in the last few years. Even if Gates &amp; co. DID have to invest a bit in them... (sorry, couldn't resist an off-topic's off-topic potshot...lol)

K1DarkKnight aka PocketPC Addict (Hi, my name is...)

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Palm ? --> HP iPAQ 1945 (returned for) --> HP iPAQ 2215 --> Dell Axim X50v (by 3/1/05, hopefully)

gorkon280
02-13-2005, 04:06 PM
I come here to get the latest skinny on Pocket PC's and as of late, there has not been much.
Really? As of this week, since we got three editors, I thought the frontpage was overflowing with news.

- 8 posts on Friday (this one offtopic)
- 8 posts on Thursday
- 12 posts on Wednesday
- 10 posts on Tuesday
- 8-plus posts on Monday

We're averaging about one piece of news every two-to-three hours around the clock on weekdays -- not equally distributed, but frequent nevertheless.

--janak

OK.....how many of these were related to anything but some "overpriced" (9.95 for a binary clock? I laugh at thee!) software? I don't know, but right now, even the VGA Pocket PC's don't excite me and all anyone has seen fit to release in a PPCPE has been devices with less capabilities then mine. While you have to post something sometimes, I think those shouild be reserved for they oh hey so and so released a cool case for X model of Pocket PC.

I also do not see it is productive in laughing at Palm. Palm is competition and while they don't have anything to compete with Pocket PC now, they may any day. You NEVER know when Palm might just surprise you. They used to say this kind of crap about Apple, but noones laughing at them now. Personally, I would rather see a post about how can Palm become a better OS. Why? Because if Palm starts to innovate again, then MAYBE Microsoft may decide to actually innovate again on PocketPC too. Where's my 4 GB integrated Hard Disk? Where's my Pocket PC that's entirely flash based, but has a battery life of weeks instead of monthes? There's been a extreme lack of innovation on both sides of the coin as of late. Taking pot shots at Palm may also have Palm taking potshots at us when they finally release a drool worthy device.

Also, if you EVER want Pocket PC's to be considered a serious platform for computing, then I would definitely try to point out MORE of why they are better then palm. We all know why, but some newbies that read the site might not....as well as newbies who are a bit tired of Palm trying to search out why a Pocket PC might suit them. Seeing this crack on the platform they now use probably isnt going to be a good thing to win over another user.

Janak Parekh
02-13-2005, 08:11 PM
OK.....how many of these were related to anything but some "overpriced" (9.95 for a binary clock? I laugh at thee!) software?
Why don't you scroll down the frontpage and have a look yourself? A casual glance right now suggests that most of our posts have been hardly that.

While you have to post something sometimes, I think those shouild be reserved for they oh hey so and so released a cool case for X model of Pocket PC.
We do have those.

I also do not see it is productive in laughing at Palm.
It's a Friday off-topic post. We've laughed at things Palm, Pocket PC and many others. That doesn't mean we're laughing them off.

Palm is competition and while they don't have anything to compete with Pocket PC now, they may any day. You NEVER know when Palm might just surprise you.
Nah - Symbian is the real competitor right now. They're taking over in marketshare.

Personally, I would rather see a post about how can Palm become a better OS. Why? Because if Palm starts to innovate again, then MAYBE Microsoft may decide to actually innovate again on PocketPC too. Where's my 4 GB integrated Hard Disk?
:confused totally: A Pocket PC site is supposed to post on how to make PalmOS better? We do post all the time on what we'd like to see on PDAs. We've posted on the subject of integrated hard disks numerous times.

Where's my Pocket PC that's entirely flash based, but has a battery life of weeks instead of monthes?
:huh: I don't understand this question at all. Do you mean months instead of weeks? And, in any case, Pocket PCs are flash-based? Are you talking about a Tungsten V-style solution where all of the storage is in flash? We've also posted on that idea as well.

There's been a extreme lack of innovation on both sides of the coin as of late.
I completely disagree.

Also, if you EVER want Pocket PC's to be considered a serious platform for computing, then I would definitely try to point out MORE of why they are better then palm.
As was hinted above, we've been doing that all week. I'm sorry you feel that one off-topic post hurts Pocket PC adoption.

--janak

csmith75
02-13-2005, 08:56 PM
Gimme a break...it was a joke! Some of you really need to lighten up. :roll:

Jon Westfall
02-14-2005, 05:01 AM
I never understand the point of juvenile potshots like this.
On Friday afternoons, we usually do one humorous "off-topic" post. At least several Contributing Editors found it funny.

--janak

I know I'm weighing in a bit late, but I found it funny and completely appropriate. This site isn't some traditional all-fact-seriously-presented news magazine, its designed to be hip, modern, and community based.

gorkon280
02-14-2005, 07:31 PM
There's been a extreme lack of innovation on both sides of the coin as of late.
I completely disagree.


--janak

There HAS been a lack of innovation. I will agree to disagree on the post janak but come on. VGA screens on Pocket PC's while new, it's not a innovation it's just a continuation. I, for one, think that the current Pocket PC OS is still very hobbled. I, for one, have not seen the 400 MHz and faster CPU's making a difference. We now have more then enough CPU power in the palm of our hand, yet, because the OS as well as current board designs are hobbled, we are not truly using the current CPU's to their fullest. I hope that devices like the OQO do get better because thats the only way I am going to get what I want in a PDA I guess. Maybe I am just sour on the whole no upgrades for old iPaq issue yet but it's not just Toshiba or HP any more. Almost noone has release a SE upgrade for their past devices. Pocket PC wil just end up running all of our cell phones and that just makes me excited...:|

OSUKid7
02-14-2005, 09:26 PM
There HAS been a lack of innovation. I will agree to disagree on the post janak but come on. VGA screens on Pocket PC's while new, it's not a innovation it's just a continuation. I, for one, think that the current Pocket PC OS is still very hobbled. I, for one, have not seen the 400 MHz and faster CPU's making a difference. We now have more then enough CPU power in the palm of our hand, yet, because the OS as well as current board designs are hobbled, we are not truly using the current CPU's to their fullest. I hope that devices like the OQO do get better because thats the only way I am going to get what I want in a PDA I guess. Maybe I am just sour on the whole no upgrades for old iPaq issue yet but it's not just Toshiba or HP any more. Almost noone has release a SE upgrade for their past devices. Pocket PC wil just end up running all of our cell phones and that just makes me excited...:|
And you're blaming PPCT for the lack of inovation? On some levels, I agree that inovation has really slowed down, but PPCT is a news (views, rants, and raves) site...it may influence the PPC world, but when the news is slow, what can they do?

Janak Parekh
02-14-2005, 09:33 PM
Pocket PC wil just end up running all of our cell phones and that just makes me excited...:|
Actually, that to me is the biggest area of innovation. If you've looked at some of the newest Pocket PC Phones, they represent the ultimate in convergence, and I don't see any hint of slowdown. I notice in your sig that you've never tried one. If that's not part of your requirements or preferences, then I understand why you might think that development on Pocket PCs have slowed.

As to the Pocket PC OS, I can tell you that Microsoft is working actively on it, but unfortunately I can't tell you what they're doing.

--janak

gorkon280
02-14-2005, 11:09 PM
And you're blaming PPCT for the lack of inovation? On some levels, I agree that inovation has really slowed down, but PPCT is a news (views, rants, and raves) site...it may influence the PPC world, but when the news is slow, what can they do?

Naw nothing like that. It's just around here as of late it seems all we've done is bash palm....just kidding. No there's a lack of innovation and it's distinct. I would have tried a Pocket PC Phone Edition Janak but I think the pricing is way off on these or the PPCPE that's available is crippled in some way compared to a stand alone...ie only 32 MB of memory (XDA) or only 64 MB of memory, no SDIO and other things. While I agree a PPCPE has the extra stuff necessary for working with cell networks, I can't believe that the subsidised price here in the US is still close to what I would pay for a stand alone Pocket PC unless it's really old or something. If I am going to pay full price and not have some of the items I can get on say a hx4700 or some of the non cell based Pocket PC's then what is the point?? I guess I am just getting a bit dissatisfied with the devices as of late. The things that Microsoft needs to do to make this a platform that could really BE your main device away from home over a laptop they just seem to not be doing any more because now it's going to become your cell phone and everyone supposedly wants this. I am not sure I do. The iJam is nice, but, in my opinion, is too small for a combo device. Maybe the iPaq message pad is in my future? Not sure. I do know this...it's just not as fun for me any more. I don't get excited about the new devices because the new one I was excited about, the MPx seems to be unavailable here with no idea of when it will appear in the US. I don't know maybe that's why I am not finding the PalmOS joke funny....maybe a Treo 650 is in my future? Toodles...I am done with this thread.