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Ed Hansberry
10-03-2004, 09:00 PM
<a href="http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readerforppc.html">http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readerforppc.html</a><br /><br />Adobe has released an updated version of its Reader product for the Pocket PC platform.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/hansberry/2004/20041004-adobereader2.jpg" /><br /><br />New features include:<br /><br />• Faster performance <i>(Well, we know it couldn't be slower than 1.0!) ;)</i><br />• Mobile data entry: Submit form data using handheld devices over a wireless connection. If you are working offline, the data is temporarily stored, then submitted once a connection is established. Send forms by e-mail or directly to the destination server using a cradle or cable. <br />• Wireless printing: Print directly from a handheld device to a remote printer.* <br />• Slide show viewing: Easily share Adobe PDF slide shows generated by Adobe Photoshop® Album software on handheld devices in portrait or landscape mode.<br />• Downloading digital editions: Download digital editions of your favorite books in PDF format to handheld devices and read them anywhere. I would assume this means you can now buy DRM locked Reader ebooks from online retailers and read them on your Pocket PC.<br /><br />Like all versions of Reader, it is free and it is large. ;) The English installer is 13.5MB, so I suggest you plant this on your storage card.

James Fee
10-03-2004, 09:15 PM
Why is it that Adobe products, no matter what platform they run on, handle like a 1964 Lincoln Continental?

I'll stick with Repligo (Hell I paid for it) for the time being...

delfuhd
10-03-2004, 09:21 PM
YAY! Finally!

ctmagnus
10-03-2004, 09:35 PM
Bleh... If a Pocket PC app is over ~1.5MB, it better be da*n good, imo. Acrobat Reader just doesn't make it there. Give me RepliGo anyday.

hotweiss
10-03-2004, 09:39 PM
This program will greatly increase the speed of your Windows Adobe Acrobat Reader:

http://www.tnk-bootblock.co.uk/prods/misc/index.php

A little off-topic, but some of you were complaining about slow load times...

Jerry Raia
10-03-2004, 10:12 PM
Why is it that Adobe products, no matter what platform they run on, handle like a 1964 Lincoln Continental?

I'll stick with Repligo (Hell I paid for it) for the time being...

I have to agree, slow and klunky.

PR.
10-03-2004, 10:15 PM
Here is how I handle PDFs on my iPAQ

Open in Acrobat > Convert to Repligo > put on iPAQ

10x smaller 10x faster. :wink:

jkendrick
10-03-2004, 10:49 PM
Anybody know if this works in SE in VGA?

James Fee
10-03-2004, 11:18 PM
A little off-topic, but some of you were complaining about slow load times...
I agree, helps Acrobat, but not Photoshop CS or Illustrator CS...

djr13
10-03-2004, 11:52 PM
I have tried 5 times to install this on a hx4700 with no success. Every time I am greeted with the message "Acrobat Reader 1.0 is installed. It must be removed first etc..." This is not the case as it has been uninstalled. Could it be that the ClearVue PDF viewer is interfering?

More importantly, is it really worth bothering to install this monster when Repligo performs so well?

HTK
10-04-2004, 12:18 AM
Anybody know if this works in SE in VGA?
No, it its working ins qvga on my e805 running SE, thats quite a shame, I'll try the resource hack to see if its more stable than the older version in VGA.

Shame on you Adobe, shame on you :idontthinkso:

outdoor
10-04-2004, 12:23 AM
you need to go to your windows control panel > add/remove programs, and remove adobe reader for ppc 1.0 first. :wink:

jkendrick
10-04-2004, 12:29 AM
I got the same "already installed" message- just go into the registry and delete any adobe reference and it will install fine.

jkendrick
10-04-2004, 12:31 AM
Got it running on my Toshiba e800 and it indeed does not support either SE nor VGA. What a joke. :evil:

GadgetMan
10-04-2004, 12:38 AM
Anybody know if this works in SE in VGA?

I installed it without a problem into iPaq File Store on my hx4700. It works fine in portrait, but is completely not compatible with landscape mode.

Also, the fonts look VERY fuzzy. Acrobat's font rendering engine really sucks!

I strongly recommend RepliGo (www.cerience.com). You can print anything (incl. Adobe Acrobat documents) to ReliGo file and then view it (both standard and reflow mode) on your PPC. Fast, reliable, flexible and works great on hx4700.

Cheers,

GadgetMan
10-04-2004, 12:42 AM
I have tried 5 times to install this on a hx4700 with no success. Every time I am greeted with the message "Acrobat Reader 1.0 is installed. It must be removed first etc..." This is not the case as it has been uninstalled. Could it be that the ClearVue PDF viewer is interfering?

More importantly, is it really worth bothering to install this monster when Repligo performs so well?

Question 1: Did you run Add/Remove Programs from Control Panel on you desktop/notebook to remove it there as well? FYI, it installed perfectly fine on my hx4700 (into iPaq File Store), but I have not installed Adobe Acrobat Reader 1.0 PPC on my desktop since the last time I rebuilt this machine from scratch.

Question 2: Do not bother. ReliGo is faster, better and more flexible than this overbloated piece of bad code.

Cheers,

powder2000
10-04-2004, 12:44 AM
Ya, I can only see acrobat being helpful if it supports vga landscape. What a shame................. :roll:

Hx4700
10-04-2004, 01:52 AM
I installed it without a problem into iPaq File Store on my hx4700. It works fine in portrait, but is completely not compatible with landscape mode.

Gadgetman -- What version is the new one you installed? The one already loaded on our 4700 is 2.3.
Ron...

GadgetMan
10-04-2004, 02:11 AM
I installed it without a problem into iPaq File Store on my hx4700. It works fine in portrait, but is completely not compatible with landscape mode.
[/quote]
Gadgetman -- What version is the new one you installed? The one already loaded on our 4700 is 2.3.
Ron...[/quote]

Huh? There is no Adobe Reader pre-installed on my hx4700. In any case it only got released by Adobe right now. Are you sure you are not confusing ClearVue PDF Viewer from Westtek with Adobe Reader from Adobe?

Cheers,

szamot
10-04-2004, 02:21 AM
I must say that I generally deslike PDF format but I am in love with FlashPaper from Macromedia, 1/10 the cost, of Adobe Writer for making conversions, half the file size and 10 times the conversion speed.....and you can still do a PDF if so desired or just a Flash file. HELLO!?

Hx4700
10-04-2004, 02:53 AM
I installed it without a problem into iPaq File Store on my hx4700. It works fine in portrait, but is completely not compatible with landscape mode.

Gadgetman -- What version is the new one you installed? The one already loaded on our 4700 is 2.3.
Ron...[/quote]

Huh? There is no Adobe Reader pre-installed on my hx4700. In any case it only got released by Adobe right now. Are you sure you are not confusing ClearVue PDF Viewer from Westtek with Adobe Reader from Adobe?

Cheers,[/quote]
Well -- yes I am! Confused that is. :roll: I really did think it was by Adobe. After looking again at the 'About', it says 'portions' are by Adobe.
But it seems to work ok. So would we even want to use the Adobe Reader instead of this ClearVue app??
Ron...

GadgetMan
10-04-2004, 03:07 AM
Westtek's PDF viewer cannot reflow the text to fit it to display width. It also does not support bookmarks, table of contents, comments, forms, etc. You cannot use it to read Adobe ebooks. It simply is just a page image viewer.

Adobe Reader is a full blown reader. Huge difference between the two.

Cheers,

Sven Johannsen
10-04-2004, 03:17 AM
ClearVue does not support any sort of re-flow. You are stuck with viewing full pages in unreadable microscopic format or zooming in and scrolling around. Newer pdf files can be reformated to be more easily read on a PDA using re-flow. Repligo provides a similar feature, but with rgo files, their proprietary 'portable' format. The other thing that Clearvue does not do is search the pdf. For my purposes, that's a non-starter. I have a 170 page manual and I'm looking for the DIP switch settings for a particular parameter. I'm not doing that page by page and scrolling.

While I generally will convert my pdfs to rgo and just use that, there are those instances where I need to read a pdf, unfortunately. To help you decide how badly you need it, here are some numbers. Reader 1.0 is listed in AS Add/Remove programs as using 4,799.7M. Reader two is listed at 7,995.8M, That's 3,196.1M more for whatever benefit 2 gives you. I see better speed, and several new things I won't use, presentations and forms. The have added a print option, but it relys on HPs printing solution. That's not a small footprint to add if you don't already use it.

My memory change when removing 1.0 was 4.21M. I used 7.21M when I put 2.0 on, so it appeared to me as a 3M hit for the new version. I'm leaving it for now. If you only have an occasional need to read native pdfs on your PPC, I'm not sure that 2.0 buys you much over 1.0 except some speed. If you didn't get it with your PPC, the cost of Clearvue may be something that you should look in to. For occasional use the scrolling is bearable. To me the lack of search is not.

jkendrick
10-04-2004, 03:55 AM
The deal breaker for me is not supporting SE.

mv
10-04-2004, 03:59 AM
Commong guys... it´s a lot faster than the old one, wich is very good. And 3 mb more? don´t we all have giant SD cards? :)

rand
10-04-2004, 06:37 AM
Will this updated program display Adobe Reader PDF files?

Thanks,
Rand

Bajan Cherry
10-04-2004, 06:53 AM
Do not bother. ReliGo is faster, better and more flexible than this overbloated piece of bad code.


You get what you paid for.

kamikun
10-04-2004, 11:14 AM
Just want to spread the love here that I see others have for RepliGo...

If it comes up in PDF on my computer then I immediately convert it to RepliGo format and save it. Version 2 of that program is just beautiful on my VGA machine and with the ability now to copy text, bookmark and display Asian fonts there is nothing lacking by going cold turkey on Adobe. (That pointless two-step of having to install Asian fonts seperately on Acrobat is annoying... RepliGo offered that in-package and at a smaller install size overall.)

I cannot believe that Acrobat for PPC version 2 does not support VGA or, at the least, SE. What, exactly, was upgraded?? :roll:

If you use PDFs please consider making the small investment in RepliGo... A heck of a better designed product it seems.

Darius Wey
10-04-2004, 12:17 PM
Just want to spread the love here that I see others have for RepliGo...

I really love the compact file size of the .RGO file format. Brings a tear to my eye. :wink:

Darren Behan
10-04-2004, 02:23 PM
For those having problems with the installation who don't want to dig into the registry, reinstalling 1.0 then uninstalling 1.0 worked for me. Time consuming and inellegant I admit, but it works.

db

christak
10-04-2004, 05:16 PM
Will this updated program display Adobe Reader PDF files?

Thanks,
Rand

Yes, but how to get the pocketPC reader activated is not obvious... The DRM activation site does not show a button to activate this version -- there is one for the desktop version and one for the palm os... what is up with that?

corrosive
10-04-2004, 05:28 PM
Will this updated program display Adobe Reader PDF files?

Thanks,
Rand

Yes, but how to get the pocketPC reader activated is not obvious... The DRM activation site does not show a button to activate this version -- there is one for the desktop version and one for the palm os... what is up with that?
Yes, I've just spent ages trying to get that going - so how DO you activate it?

Sven Johannsen
10-04-2004, 05:48 PM
On the subject of SE, I understand the VGA thing, but does it really not work with landscape? I know ver 1 had a problem if you switched orientation while the reader was running. It loaded fine and ran fine if you started it with the PPC in the orientation you wanted to view it in. In addition ver 1 had a native landscape mode, i.e. you could rotate the view within the program. That feature still exists. So if you are viewing adobe in portrait and want to view landscape, you could use the adobe rotate rather than the OS rotate. That's actually more convinient unless you have mapped a hardware button to do the OS rotate I would think.

I haven't loaded the new version on an SE machine yet, but can't imagine they would have eliminated something ver 1 could do.

christak
10-04-2004, 06:55 PM
Will this updated program display Adobe Reader PDF files?

Thanks,
Rand

Yes, but how to get the pocketPC reader activated is not obvious... The DRM activation site does not show a button to activate this version -- there is one for the desktop version and one for the palm os... what is up with that?
Yes, I've just spent ages trying to get that going - so how DO you activate it?

I think we have to wait for Adobe to get its act together on the activation page and add an option for the PPC... The instructions are clear in the users guide, but the web site does not have the PPC option available ("yet", I hope)...

Busdriver
10-05-2004, 01:14 AM
I downloaded Repligo today and tried to convert 3 separate pdf files to Repligo and all 3 of them failed. Adobe works every time (So far) and gives me all the features I need. 2215 BTW.

Additionally, in the age of gazillion MB CF and SD cards I just don't see big program files being the problem they were 2 or 3 years ago.

Sven Johannsen
10-05-2004, 05:48 AM
That's odd. I haven't had one fail yet, and I've done 450 page tech manuals. It does take some time. Maybe yours are protected files or something.

BGinWA
10-05-2004, 06:54 PM
Has anyone figured out how to get this to install on an hx4700?

DaleReeck
10-06-2004, 02:48 AM
I have Repligo too, but Repligo is useless if you download a PDF to your PocketPC and you need to open it natively. Repigo needs a PC to convert while Acrobat can read the files as they are, no conversion necessary.

For me, Repligo is most useful on application data files where there is no PocketPC version of the app.

Deemo
10-14-2004, 02:47 AM
I have Repligo too, but Repligo is useless if you download a PDF to your PocketPC and you need to open it natively. Repigo needs a PC to convert while Acrobat can read the files as they are

BINGO! 8)

Darius Wey
10-14-2004, 02:52 AM
BINGO! 8)

Oh, I can't wait for the day Pocket PC's are graced with a Pocket PC-based Repligo converter. :D