Laridian Releases Two Word Studies For New Testament

[Ed Hansberry]

<a href="http://www.laridian.com/ce/default.asp?ref=apwzwtzws">http://www.laridian.com/ce/default.asp?ref=apwzwtzws</a><br /><br />Laridian has released two new word studies for their popular PocketBible program. Both cover the New Testament. The first is the <a href="http://www.laridiansales.com/order/productpages/LBKCWSDNT01.asp?order_platform=ce&ring=apwzwtzws">Complete Word Study Dictionary New Testament</a> ($29.99). It uses the same reference numbering system Strong's does and even comes with the King James New Testament with Strong's numbers. The Greek word(s) is given and a more comprehensive definition and analysis than is given in the Greek Dictionary that accompanies the <a href="http://www.laridiansales.com/order/productpages/LBKNASEC01.asp?order_platform=ce&ring=apwzwtzws">New American Standard Exhaustive Concordance</a>. The numbering system is the same though so you can use the new dictionary with the NASEC. :way to go:<br /><br /><img src="http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/images/hansberry/2004/20040818-rwp.gif" /><br /><br />Next up, and shown above, is the <a href="http://www.laridiansales.com/order/productpages/LBKRWP001.asp?order_platform=ce&ring=apwzwtzws">Robertson's Word Pictures in the New Testament</a> ($39.99). This gives even more depth on key words and phrases in the New Testament. The only issue I have with this is it gives you the Greek word in <i>Greek</i> letters, which pretty much rules out me pronouncing any of it. :wink: I would like to see the transliterated English word next to it, however, it is still a great tool. Both have already been installed on my PocketBible, bringing my library to 26 translations, commentaries, reference books and dictionaries approaching 80MB! 8O <i>(Affiliate links)</i><br /><br />OH! I almost forgot. If you don't yet own PocketBible, Laridian is giving it away free through August 31, 2004 when you buy any translation. Details are on their home page. This is a $10 value. :D

[dean_shan]

How does Laridian compair to Olive Tree (http://www.olivetree.com/)?

[Brad Adrian]

As far as the number of translations and study tools they offer, Olive Tree and Laridian are pretty evenly matched. I've used Laridian for years and stuck with it. But, when I started using it, Olive Tree had only a few translations to offer.

You'll have to do an item-by-item comparison to see which one offers the books that you really like and need.

[rcecme]

How does Laridian compair to Olive Tree (http://www.olivetree.com/)?

I have them both on my SD. Laridian appears to have more funtionality than Olive Tree. You can view two versions on screen at once. You can easily import files you have with verses notated and the software removes the verse notations and replaces with links to the actual verse. These are just a couple of the differences.

The BIG difference I guess would be that you have to pay for the reader software with Laridian and some other items like the Matthew Henry Commentary that you do not have to pay for with Olive Tree. However, the price for most versions are comparable between the two.

My biggest reason for choosing Laridian was for the Life Application Bible Commentary. Of course, they now have the IVP Commentary ($129.99) which Ed has kept us informed of previously. I have not sprung yet. (The wife might put me in the dog house for that!)

As you can see, I prefer Laridian. :)

[robcorn]

I've used Laridian since they first came out, and their upgrades, service and support are superlative. They easily have enough translations and commentaries for bible studies, and their daily reader allows you to tailor your reading several different ways, as well as prompting you every day to do your reading. A big thumbs up from me!

[dma1965]

How does Laridian compair to Olive Tree (http://www.olivetree.com/)?

I looked at both, and decided Olive Tree was the way to go, because it is free, and they offer a lot of translations and guides for free as well. I do not mind paying for software, but respect companies that offer free stuff.

I would actually pay for the first bible software that allows me to underline, write, circle, etc. on the scripture pages just like in a real paper bible.

[stevehiner]

I would actually pay for the first bible software that allows me to underline, write, circle, etc. on the scripture pages just like in a real paper bible.

That would be great. I wish Laridian would at least add the ability to underline. I like the flexibility of the notes you can add since they automatically create links to any referenced scripture but sometimes I just want to highlight or underline a bit. I also wish it has a place for notes that apply to a whole book or chapter instead of a verse. If I want to include notes about a book I end up having to attach a note to the first verse in the book.

Hard reset your brain? 8O I have a friend that got hard reset in a motorcycle accident. I'm sure he'd tell you that losing your memory royally sucks. It was interesting to be introduced to my old friend for the first time. He was Marine Recon before the accident so it sure did make Bourne Identity a more interesting movie for me.

[24va]

All depends on how I'm in the Word

Personal study devotion - Laridian most comprehensive 57MB
Group Bible Study - OliveTree fastest to get to a verse (least number of taps) 9.6MB
Verse comparison - e-Sword slowest of the three but is very versatile 99.77MB

[welovejesus]

One reason Laridian is helpful is that it reads HTML files. I created a Bible study in MS Word and saved it as HTML to the Laridian book directory. Not only did Laridian read the HTML file with the formating, Laridian automatically recognized the verses and hyperlinked them to the Bible. :D

[Jereboam]

No disrespect for your religious beliefs, I am an atheist and usually find plenty of tolerance for that and offer the same, but $70? Am I the only one who sees some serious commercial exploitation of religion in this? And you all seem to have bought other books as well, boosting the total even further.

Not intending to turn this into a religious debate but man that is rich...

About the only thing that would remedy the situation is hearing that they support some charity with the proceeds...

J'bm

[Ed Hansberry]

No disrespect for your religious beliefs, I am an atheist and usually find plenty of tolerance for that and offer the same, but $70? Am I the only one who sees some serious commercial exploitation of religion in this? And you all seem to have bought other books as well, boosting the total even further.
Books cost money. Research books tend to cost more than normal mass market books. Laridian has to pay license fees to the copyright holders and then make some profit for themselves to pay the guys coding the books, the server and bandwidth, etc. Looking at Amazon, the 6 volumes of the paper version of Robertson's Word Pictures will run $10-$20 per volume, so figure minimum $60 max $120.

I think the ebook version of $40 is quite reasonable. :D

[GadgetMan]

Looking at Amazon, the 6 volumes of the paper version of Robertson's Word Pictures will run $10-$20 per volume, so figure minimum $60 max $120.

I think the ebook version of $40 is quite reasonable. :D

Or you can be even more reasonable and offer it for FREE. Just visit Pocket e-Sword at http://www.e-sword.net/pocketpc/ and you can get Robertson's Word Pictures absolutely free of charge.

BTW, does anyone know when Laridian is finally going to update their Pocket Bible program? Version 2.x is almost 4.5 years old and unfortunately it's been showing its age for a while now...

Cheers,

[drrichard]

I'm a pastor and can't tell you how helpful Laridian software is to me. I use it constantly :lol: While waiting for my wife to finish shopping, I sit in the mall or car and get a lot done :!: I can read my Bible just about anywhere I am.

[Ed Hansberry]

Looking at Amazon, the 6 volumes of the paper version of Robertson's Word Pictures will run $10-$20 per volume, so figure minimum $60 max $120.

I think the ebook version of $40 is quite reasonable. :D

Or you can be even more reasonable and offer it for FREE. Just visit Pocket e-Sword at http://www.e-sword.net/pocketpc/ and you can get Robertson's Word Pictures absolutely free of charge.
THat download is 1.7MB, and includes the files of a windows installer app. Laridian's download is 2.8MB and has a stub installer that basically just transfers the file to your PPC. I find it hard to believe, though not impossible that the two files have the same info. Laridian blows up to 4MB and is internally compressed. How large is the eSword equiv.

I don't want to take anything away from the eSword project. I am tickled to death there are people giving away so much time and energy to further the spread of God's word. However, I don't begrudge anyone making a living off of doing it either. It is absolutely Biblical to be compensated for doing that, and I've found Laridian's support, library and programs worth paying for. :D If your preference is for eSword, that is great too!

[handeconcepts]

No disrespect for your religious beliefs, I am an atheist and usually find plenty of tolerance for that and offer the same, but $70? Am I the only one who sees some serious commercial exploitation of religion in this? And you all seem to have bought other books as well, boosting the total even further.
Books cost money. Research books tend to cost more than normal mass market books. Laridian has to pay license fees to the copyright holders and then make some profit for themselves to pay the guys coding the books, the server and bandwidth, etc. Looking at Amazon, the 6 volumes of the paper version of Robertson's Word Pictures will run $10-$20 per volume, so figure minimum $60 max $120.

I think the ebook version of $40 is quite reasonable. :D

Developing software can be time consuming. There is design, development, testing, support, licensing, updating, and advertising (spreading the word that you even offer something), just to mention a few items.

Jereboam, email me and I will send you a copy of The Spiritual Journal for the Pocket PC for free. Also, I would like the opportunity to talk with you about your decision to be an atheist.

[Jereboam]

Whoa there...

:D

That would be one looooooong chat. I can find so many faults and no-no's in organised religion it would take many bottles of Knockandoo to get it all squared away....!

Not that I am against debate but this isn't the appropriate place for it.

Label me an empiricist and let's leave it at that...I'm firmly set in my ways! ;)

Thank you for your offer though...I shall gracefully decline.

J'bm

[Jereboam]

I'm not arguing against the convenience of Pocket PC versions of your books, I love ebooks myself and this is the same concept but obviously enhanced for referencing etc but the cost, despite the reasons you have laid out, still seem above par. Especially, as someone pointed out, the "client" end seems not to have kept up with the general pace of CE software development.

J'bm

[24va]

I'm not arguing against the convenience of Pocket PC versions of your books, I love ebooks myself and this is the same concept but obviously enhanced for referencing etc but the cost, despite the reasons you have laid out, still seem above par. Especially, as someone pointed out, the "client" end seems not to have kept up with the general pace of CE software development.

J'bm

It's development cost and demand

too many empiricist ;) not buying
not enough Christians with PPCs buying

Leads to a higher price

[handeconcepts]

Whoa there...

:D

That would be one looooooong chat. I can find so many faults and no-no's in organised religion it would take many bottles of Knockandoo to get it all squared away....!

Not that I am against debate but this isn't the appropriate place for it.

Label me an empiricist and let's leave it at that...I'm firmly set in my ways! ;)

Thank you for your offer though...I shall gracefully decline.

J'bm

Jereboam,

Unfortunately this media is not very personal, so I hope that the offer was received as it was intended, which was as an invitation to friendly discussion. You are certainly correct that this is not the correct place. So please accept my open invitation to email me directly anytime.

[Jereboam]

Absolutely taken in the spirit it was offered...but I'll have to take a raincheck. I'm comfortable with my beliefs.

Cheers, J'bm

[wigglesworth]

Jereboam, email me and I will send you a copy of The Spiritual Journal for the Pocket PC for free. Also, I would like the opportunity to talk with you about your decision to be an atheist.


handeconcepts, If you would I wouldn't mind a copy of this program. The only copy I found online was from pocketgear.com for 34.95
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=12675

Is the program you have the same one as listed above or is it different? If this is the same program as above and you had to pay for it then please do not send it to me, but if not then I wouldn't mind a copy!

Thanks