hx4700 UK price

[timmer]

Its on the UK Expansys site at £497.95. Now I knew it would be pricey but this is ridiculous. The Toshiba E800 sells for £317 on the same site.

So are HP expecting us to pay an extra £180 over the Toshiba for just a faster processor. Correct me if I'm wrong but there doesnt seem to be anything dramatically different between the two apart from processors. Especially now Toshiba offer a SE upgrade for the OS.

In most everyday apps you wont even need the extra processing power. It becomes useful for things like games, emulation, video playing, etc. Now this device is being targeted at business people so the extra price seems even less relevant.

[timmer]

Even the rx3710 is on the Expansys site for £397. Thats £80 more than the Toshiba E800 for :

1. Less Processing power
2. Lower res and smaller screen
3. A camera

Oh wow, an extra £80 for that !

HP are having a laugh in my opinion. Considering Toshiba also show better support for their PDA (the SE Upgrade !), I certainly wont be buying HP.

[manywhere]

But, these prices are pre-release prices which should mean that the prices do not reflect the final, true prices of the products.

I think that Expansys is just playing it safe pumping up the prices before recieving stock and then lowering the price to the real level. It just looks nicer on paper for them... :roll:

[timmer]

well I hope you are right. Hopefully they are well pumped up and will get a serious deflating on release...

I'm considering the Toshiba E800 now anyway - better support, similar spec.

[timmer]

Well I phoned up Expansys and they confirmed that these are just pre-release prices. The guy I spoke to wouldnt 100% guarantee it, but they are expecting the RRP to be £400.

This is still too high in my opinion when you compare it to the Toshiba E800 which I have found for £300.

[acetuk]

I have to say that I am totally confused about what upgrade to make. The only thing I am sure about is that I am going to upgrade!

Prior to the HP release I have been considering a Dell X30i (speed, SE etc. but without the VGA screen) at a great price or a E800 (screen, ram but not the speed) at nearly as good price.

I like the look of the HP 6300. But I've never used a PPC as a phone before so I'm not sure how I would get on. Holding my 2210 to my ear feels heavy and the idea of always wearing my BT headset is not practical. However having one device with everything on appeals to me. I need to see some benchmarks of running something like Pocket Informant on it though to be convinced.

The 4700 looks amazing but it is at laptop prices. I think Novatech are quoting similar prices to the current Expansys price and I've seen another site quoting £470 (I'll try to dig out where I saw that). However if the device is right for me then the price will be ok as well - I can't always have a laptop with me but I can my PocketPC.

Rumours about a E830 running a faster processor also interest me. However I need more information and an idea of a price first - it might come in at £400 making the extra £90 for the 4700 look a little better. This depends on how Toshiba view the E800 and it's pricing (rumours of it being removed from their product range suggest that we may see it drop in price and make a more realistic price for the E830 more likely).

My next purchase has to last me two to two and a half years so I want to spend wisely. I'm looking forward to more 4700 reviews to get a better understanding feel for it.

One problem in the UK is finding a place that has them on display for you to try out. PC World had the 2210 when it was released but I didn't seen them anywhere else. This is a lot of money to pay without playing with it first.

[acetuk]

I do hope that the £400 price from Expansys is correct - it's what I had expected when I was reading the specs considering the E800 is approx. £320.

We may even see them cheaper than that!

[Andy Whiteford]

Yes, the h4150 went on sale with a rrp of £399 when it was released in the UK so I would imagine a £400 price point is a good indication.

[timmer]

What date was the 4150 released in the UK ? Just wondering how long it took to reach its current price.

[Andy Whiteford]

I'm sure it was just at the end of last year or the very start of this year.

[Duncan]

There's a lot more than Expansys out there:

Dabs.com (http://www.dabs.com/uk/channels/hardware/pdaandhandhelds/productView.htm?quicklinx=380L) = £453.98

[Jonathon Watkins]

Give it a week or two and we should get a better picture. I do think we'll be lucky to see it under £400 though......

[PR.]

I preordered already :)

I was expecting more than this, so I'm not that bothered ...

[acetuk]

This is more like it.... Dabs are now quoting £403 including VAT on their website.

Looks like £400 is possible.

[timmer]

See I told you :D

This leads me to believe that it may be available below £400. Whenever I buy hardware, I always manage to find it cheaper than dabs.

[timmer]

Interesting when I first saw the Dabs price of £453, I also noted that C&A Electronics had it for £429.99. Now dabs have reduced their price it will be interested to see if they do the same.

Also, for the record, C&A are quoting a delivery date of 20/8. C&A are usually cheaper than Dabs.

[Jonathon Watkins]

This is more like it.... Dabs are now quoting £403 including VAT on their website.

Looks like £400 is possible.

Nice, very nice! Now lets hope that Toshiba are still in the PDA business and get their e805 update out soon. Otherwise the 4700 is looking very good indeed.

[Gerald]

The 4700 is now appearing on the hp.com/uk website with a price of £366 excluding VAT.

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/en/sm/WF05a/21675-21679-21679-21679-21679-8115561.html

[acetuk]

Just a quick update on this - Expansys are now quoting £399.95 on their website. Dabs are still quoting £403.

Looks like a price around £400 is looking like it will be the asking price then. That's what I was expecting... possibly even a little more.

I hope this helps some of you out there.

[acetuk]

This threads a little old but I think it is worthwhile making an update.

Dabs today seem to have increased their price to £458.99. I have noticed that over the last few days the amount available has bounced around quite a lot so I'm not sure what is going on there.

They are quoting 3 to 4 weeks stock delivery to them.

I've also called Expansys and been quoted a stock arrival date to them of 15th September. They have available stock and the price is holding firm at £399.95 + £5.50 delivery next day.

I've just pre-ordered mine with the usual Expansys deal that I can change my mind at any time.

Now it's down to Toshiba and more likely Dell to show me what they can offer. A Dell X50 by the end of September for less money would possibly sway me away from the 4700 - maybe.

Oh what fun!! :lol:

[Jonathon Watkins]

Now it's down to Toshiba and more likely Dell to show me what they can offer. A Dell X50 by the end of September for less money would possibly sway me away from the 4700 - maybe.

At the moment it is between Dell and Toshiba for me. The good new should be that these should both be less than the 4705......

[acetuk]

I guess the release date is really going to be a telling factor here.

If HP, Dell, ASUS and Toshiba release on the same day and by chance I could find a place with them all physically available to 'play' with then the choice would be easier - go for the one that feels right. And I truely think that that decision would be easy, at least for me.

But I think that the manufacturer who gets theirs out first, especially if it is a few weeks before the others, will find they will get the early adoptors and those who just can't wait.

I fall mostly in to that last category with one addition - both of my previous PPC's have been HP's so the idea of my next PPC also being by HP has for some reason a comforting feeling.

That doesn't mean that Dell are not interesting to me now. It just comes down to timing... :D

[acetuk]

I think this will be my last post on this. Only because things are now getting silly!!

Dabs today are reporting a price of £395.98 including VAT. That's quite a drop again from yesterday when I last looked.

Anyway, if anyone sees a price along this sort of line in the UK can they please post it here so that those of us interested have a good idea where to look to buy from.

Thanks.